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*sigh* honest to Christopher Robin
You can go back and read what i actually said if you care, we're just going round and round
Power and ko threat are two different things anyway, Leonard could hit a guy with the hard shot then step back, sit down and land a bunch more...
Forgot about the RTD vs Oscar's corpse, sorry. the cotto fight wasn't at 147 either way, the main point is still that they were A LONG time...
how much weight you lose before is irrelevant perse, how much you gain afterwards is the question. But aye, if you have more mass in the ring...
Seems reasonable.
I'm saying a 'trigger slowed' shane was probably still the biggest KO threat floyd ever faced. Take that as a measure of how untested I regard...
You're hard work today. But yes as usual my logic is pretty cool. Agree to disagree.
The only one with the slightest claim to being as big a knock out threat (at welterweight or above, in relevance to this thread) is de la hoya.
If floyd wanted to make the fight it gets made. Period. Instead floyd complained of menstral cramps and ran to the bathroom.
Yeah, I know, hardly the calibre of fighter floyd proved his furnace tempered jaw against is it
We never need to admit that because he never made us. He could have if he'd fought pac in 2010 like all the guys you want to compare him to would...
Going 59.95 rounds with Hearns, leonard, duran and palomino and never having his legs wobbled worse than floyd did in the second vs mosley until a...
'One off shit' is liable to happen when you actually fight guys who pose a decent offensive threat. Kinda the point. and shane buckled floyd's...
Put it this way- I don't think floyds chin was as good as benitez'
Leonard was among the best finishers in the entire history of the sport and punched hard enough to hurt floyd (as old man mosley did). Leonard by...
Oooooft :lol:
It would be highly improbable since hagler walked through bombs by Hearns and Mugabe. So his chin is proven against offensive threats of that...
We've never seen this mcneely stopped in 30 fights, what makes you think tyson could possibly knock him out!?
Lol, seriously? The most dangerous offensive fighter floyd ever fought was a 38 year old shane mosley. Ground control to sly, take your protein...
Of course leonard could stop floyd. What a weird discussion
I think floyd's 'prime' probably gets downgraded too much for the first castillo fight; a) I thought he clearly pulled it out b) castillo was a...
Dylan Moran - monster
No, again, im saying you take all available evidence across all available fights and weight it appropriately. It's YOU sticking fingers in ears...
Just as an exercise you could model things along two continuums - one the continuum going left to right between low and high volume in punch...
If it's a listless duran who's hardly been training - the one sly is demanding we use so his man can win- then yes his man wins. Easily. He runs...
I think, even against a motivated Duran, Floyd would probably get at least one win in a trilogy at any weight. He is/was a great fighter. On a...
So he was inconsistent. Because he was training inconsistently. So what exactly is your argument?
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