ok. so if PBF doesn't fight this mythical fighter, he certainly can't beat him. and thus, his claim to the 147 pound title will be no more.
see. i'm thinkin the exact opposite. when Chacon got in close and flurried, that's how he beat Lopez up. it's on the outside, from distance that...
i'd actually go with Ike. and i say actually because historically, Benitez is undoubtedly the higher regarded fighter. But Quartey's jab would...
ok. then let me spell it out. forget about margarito. if a fighter, any fighter, manages to beat Cotto and Williams, will he have a bigger claim...
no. i'm saying, pretend Margarito beats Williams and Cotto. how does his claim at 147 then compare to PBF's? that's all i'm asking. i'm not even...
McCallum is close to being a perfect fighter. Maybe some better hand-speed? Norris w/ Hagler's chin vs. McCallum with RJJ's speed, who do you...
if he did that, then he'd be champ. but you and i both know he's not going to. do you see what i'm getting at though? theres no circumstance...
you think Baldomir beats Williams and Cintron? Does Baldomir beat a guy like Mattyhse? He definitely loses a rematch to Clottey, no? And how the...
either first or second round. i'd just say, watch it again. you know the time i'm talkin about right - when PBF gets hit and falls into the...
then he couldn't be ranked at 147. and he'd certainly have no claim as the champion there. i'm happy to leave PBF out of the 147 rankings. why...
ok. but suppose Margarito beats Williams in July, and then Cotto in September. By that point, PBF will not have had another fight. What claim does...
he's at 154. prolly no. 3 or 4.
well, you could debate how "badly" he was hurt, but besides the knock-down, he was frozen by one of Judah's left hands, and lay against the ropes...
PBF was. by Judah. and he was also hurt badly by Corley.
yeah. Clottey does fade now that you mention it. and Corrales wasn't exactly a proven quantity at 147. but Clottey's strong. and although he does...
huh? he was knocked down, and hurt badly. And Judah landed his left hand easily before his mind failed him. the Judah fight does nothing for...
What's your top 5 or top 10, as of now, at 147? Basically, if they all fought each other, who beats whom? 1. Margarito 2. Mosley 3. Clottey 4....
not happening? or not on HBO?
Sly, what about Toney and PBF? you see my reply? i'm right. right?
he's a big light-weight. "was" a big light-weight. but he's still not as strong as natural 147 pounders like collazo was. also, and i know i'm...
seriously - when you take a step back, PBF's route through 140 and 147 really was shameful...
it's not just about not getting hit. Toney faced way better fighters more consistently than PBF, and faced much bigger punchers than PBF, and...
ok. i agree that it doesn't "all" come down to the ref. but one thing about the collazo fight is strength. why do you suppose hatton moved back...
that's right. :flip:
:lol: i don't have to make one yet. to me, it all depends on the ref.
i wouldn't exactly call the hatton that beat urango at his peak - you mean he's declined even further? it's strange. i think depending on how...
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adaptability/versatility - Barrera - he seems to be able to tailor his approach to his opponents very well, being able to box and slug when...
you're calling "ME" the warrior? i offer an opinion, and you act like i talked about your mother. i look at that as your problem not mine.
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