I had Hopkins winning the rematch Taylor barely won the first, but he did "win"
SD said "he made James Toney look like Otis Grant", my only point was that this probably would not have been the case had Toney been in good...
X's whole argument falls apart when you consider that 1) Whitaker wasn't at his best weight, either 2) Chavez was in good shape ... Compare the...
no doubt... that stiff he was fighting on Saturday knew enough to throw it but was too slow and unskilled to get it there in time He backs up...
Was Toney in worse shape against Jones than he was against Barkley/Williams, yes or no?
Whitaker wasn't at his best either, that would have been 135 for him as well I'm saying it wouldn't have mattered for Jones/Toney either, so what...
they should, but none of them know how to box
he was dehydrated and cramping up by the midway point of the fight... he was completely out of shape
X, Froch and Pavlik are shit compared to the guys we are talking about For what its worth, I could see the same Toney Jones beat having to sweat...
I don;t get this line fo thinking When Toney had these problems, his performances suffered... he lost to Dave Tiberi, regardless of what the...
I have ripped Toney for being one-dimensional (beautiful dimension, but still one dimension) for years while others vomited out utter bullshit...
I am not disagreeing with that at all
Nobody's saying its his fault, only that it mitigates the impact somewhat... Roy would have beaten him anyway, for what its worth, so the win is...
I'd argue the Bernard he beat was far from fully developed as a fighter... he was nowhere near as clever as he would later be and I'd argue that...
Chavez and Whitaker fought at a catchweight... Nelson would have whupped the ass of basically any other lightweight in the world at that time......
probably his skills are shit
a terribly out of shape Toney
:lol:
Yup the present incarnation would be chased out of the ring by Jerry Martin, never mind the top guys
:laugh11:
It is because I am a boxing fan that I can't name too many guys who hold these meaningless titles
the also-rans of that division would chase him out of the ring
it should be noted that Brown did fight in a 15 rounder against Tyrone Trice, stopping him in the 14th in an amazing fight no one talks about
true:lol: as soon as the beginning bell for round 13 rang, Brown would disappear like Marty McFly's relatives in the picture in "Back To The Future"
Jones too fast... horrible, boring fight.... Hopkins wins some rounds, has a moment or two, but Jones is too quick and Hopkins would respect his power
same, I don;t think I could name three with any certainty
sure but Calzaghe would be a worse one at any time
nah... somewhere in the middle I believe
mikE can spew whatever bullshit he likes... these belts are highly devalued, at least as any sort of descriptor of quality... if he wants to argue...
but at 147 pounds?
Separate names with a comma.
