WTF! I can't believe I missed all this lunacy. Creating an account with which you pretend to be your own son singing your praises has to be one of...
agreed. The younger brothers chinny chin makes Wlad-Haye potentially explosive. Vitally-Haye has mismatch written all over it.:dunno:
No way Haye beats Vitally, tbh. The one hope we had for entertainment value and excitement returning to the heavyweight division was pretty much...
Pretty much the response I expected to this thread! I posted it right before leaving for work, it's funny coming back the next day to it, feels...
An 'impatient counter puncher' might be how I would describe him. He's a pure counter puncher by style but a brawler by temperament.
I know he doesn't have the physical gifts to be world class and he never will do, but IMHO, there's maybe no better fighter to watch on his game...
There'll always be a market for a combat sport where the combatants don't spend 25% of the time rubbing their crotches over each other. :bears:
Exactly. Fucking douche....you'd think he's just beaten Roberto Duran or something.
As i said above, i think this is why we differentiate between greatness and peak talent. Greatness is based on what you get done, talent is...
Yes it does sound sensible. A physical prime doesn't necessarily coincide with a fighter's prime anyway, they are two distinct things. It isn't...
So fighters decline at the same rate, outstanding fighters never go off the rails for personal reasons or because they take beatings in great...
Cummon man. Because some guys noticeably decline at an early age, perhaps? :dunno: Would you really make the claim that Benitez was still at his...
I wouldn't regard him any differently since I judge fighters careers based on what happens in the ring rather than in the tiny little minds of...
:lol: Excellent.
Yeah. Nobody actually thinks Oscar beat Floyd. He certainly could have if he had stuck with his jab and if he wasn't an 9 round fighter at the...
As I said, the backward/forwards thing was a slight misstatement of what I actually meant to say. I think he struggles badly when he leads,...
Well the contrast between the first and second Forrest fights backs me up I think. In the second he lead less and succeeded much more, in fact I...
ah ha:lol:
In both the Forrest and Wright fights Shane's strategy was largely to lead though, that's the thing. Or at least he found himself in that position...
Yeah you need to factor in a guys previous with something like that. Like even the Duran thing, which was otherwise unjustifiable, you can't...
I have to disagree with both your choices there, I thought both of those quit jobs were difficult to justify.:dunno:
Don't get me wrong, he goes forward allot in fact it's practically his default setting, but he's woefully ineffective at it. Like barely a B level...
Well Oscar quit on his stool and Floyd fights every big fight like he's scared to get his mascara smudged.:stir:
Apologies if this is so screamingly obvious as to be passe, but I've never heard anyone else mention it and the only times I've brought it up in...
That's a reasonable point.
Yup. He quit half way through the first round. In reality though he quit 3 months before that when he decided not to bother training for the fight...
Hmm...interesting. You know what? Can't even pick this one.:doh: I pass on this one, although with a gun to my head I'd probably go with Cooney.
Totally agreed, there seems to be a lack of commitment generally compared with guys of even 20 years ago. I should mention also that they lack...
I don't think any sensible boxing fan will hold quitting against a fighter when it's obvious they've given their all. And conversely I don't think...
Agree with all the above examples. Personally I find the most unacceptable type of quitting the tacit quitting involved when guys just stop...
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