Valdez suffered the same way DeJesus suffered, he co-existed with an all-time lock at his respective weight but he beat everybody else put in...
same the idea that Hopkins, with his utter dearth of quality opposition at 160, should be placed ahead of Hagler or Monzon is ABSURD And,...
he took his beating... Mosley smiled a lot and seemed to come to an agreement with Pacquiao a few rounds in "listen, I'm just going to quit...
it was an impressive performance but what does that have to do with hoya's condition? was he not a washed-up fighter by that point?
he didn't even try, man it's easy to take less punishment when you are running for your life, grinning and thanking your opponent for not...
Agree I'm amazed that people still believe this will ever take place... the two men are each making obscene amounts of money to hand pick...
why is the latter more noble than the former?
not without Valdes, it isn't:pissed:
neither steve_dave nor I were in any way disputing that it was a big upset not once you have to understand the dynamic of mIKE, who...
I assumed that Pacquiao would be very uncomfortable fighting at that weight, so I figured he'd lose but to me, that is rather irrelevant when...
come to think of it, I'd rank Rodrigo Valdes over some of those guys, as well... he was better than Kalambay for sure
By The RING standards, it's pretty decent... usually their lists are infuriating
got pretty much all the right names, but the wrong order... 1, 2 are perfectly placed... the rest you could debate all day and you could argue...
:hammert:the truth!
Hoya was an old man, in all fairness so was Mosley impressive performances by Pacquiao, but let's not pretend that either of these guys was...
you're joking, I assume? in his previous fight, he'd been autopsied by Hopkins
It's ridiculous, Jake, a fighter like Johnson is about 50 shades greater than Gatti ever was... if it were really about greatness as a fighter,...
everybody with a pulse was competitive with Taylor
Yo, that's why Pacquiao lost, yo he's an atheist
The hall of fame has roughly 60 fighters who shouldn't be there... basically, if you held a title or you were popular, you will get in... there...
one day, Arturo friggin' Gatti will get into that fucking place... at that point, you simply blow it up
What skillful, experienced fighter did Taylor beat easily?
:hammert:I will holler five thousand
I don't know about THAT^ Taylor definitely wins, though, Vargas was no middleweight... but Taylor seldom had easy fights against upper-class...
you're missing the point... no one is questioning it was a big upset and yes I was a fervent follower back then so I'm well aware of the...
I think the sense that the shots come in such blinding array and an unpredictable sequence negates the above quite a bit. Taylor had some sting...
:laughing:
yup, it's a pick-em and a guaranteed chess match
at first I didn't get it until I thought of his username... my intital thought was "I didn't know he hated Cotto, I wonder why?":giggle:
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