He had good reflexes and upper body movement, but raw hand and footspeed? Nah, nothing special at all. The actual velocity of his punches was...
Well that's the thing - 30 being old is a thing of the past. Think about modern era elite fighters. Almost all of them over 30. Floyd, Pacquiao,...
Exactly this again. I've always found it utterly mindboggling how people go on about Hamed's talent. Broner too, but less so. A perfect example...
This exactly. His weird style is what gave him success, it's the sort of style which dominates scrubs but gets exposed at the highest level -...
I have to agree with both Dog and Jesus. He did look shottish, and that's coming from someone who doesn't like the way the word gets bandied...
Bivol does look Beter than Beterviev, and he Beter be a lot Beter than Beterbiev to get the Beter of Beterbiev.
Duran - Moore is actually one of the very best examples. Moore was of course an undefeated champion, and Duran was about a 3-1 underdog, fighting...
Surprised no one mentioned Chico Vs Castillo. It was very back forth the whole fight, but an awesome comeback at the end, as it seemed like he was...
No question. Duran ruined him so it's hard to judge post Duran, but he was a good skilled fighter, definitely better than Lacy.
TBH Sly, I would say fighters who were able to defeat elite champions with ease would be better. Not necessarily undefeated. You get fighters...
Davey Moore was undefeated though and surely better than Lacy :D
lol, wtf? You say you're not talking about average champs, but the VERY ELITE, then mention Jeff Lacy? Lazy was horrible, he was pretty fucking...
True, he is a little crude compared to those 2, but he's a fairly skilled pressure fighter in his own way. He is an elite pro boxer who clearly...
I didn't know that, and it surprises me a lot. He appears to me as nowhere near the level of Benitez or Duran, not even close.
He was never stopped though, and like I said, that says a fucking lot given that like 99% of other elite fighters did get stopped, especially...
Agreed, Lewis had a shitty pawing jab. More of an annoyance than a real ramrod style weapon.
Maybe it was a lucky style matchup, but I struggle to call anyone who arguably beat Lummox on points shit.
Sure, but Marquez is clearly better than Rosario, let's be real :D
Absolutely spot on.
Not sure who would win this, but damn, I actually lean towards Mercer. It seems like Joshua is becoming quite overrated. It's funny, as in other...
True, but a bit like aforementioned Donaire fight, or even Pacquiao vs Plasterito, a gulf in ability trumps a big size advantage. I don't just...
If there is a huge gap in skill and experience, size doesn't mean much. It's a tiny elite fighter Vs a giant bum. Did you ever see Donaire Vs a...
Agreed.
Do any of you know why Marquez was DQ'd in his pro debut? I had no idea actually, I'd obviously never bothered to look all the way down his...
Watching some more of his fights today, I'd have to agree he is not slow. Not sure why, my initial impression of him against Chavez and Ramirez...
I think Wangek would fuck him up good and proper. He might be tiny, but he wouldn't carry PillowFists, and he's a fierce little fucker with power,...
He looks really good here, easily the best I've seen him look. I agree he doesn't look slow in this fight, his handspeed, footspeed, and defense...
In retrospect Oscar was past prime and Chico was badly weight drained (planned on moving up for his next fight, then of course Floyd calls him out...
I rewatched Chavez Vs Rosario yesterday. He was slower than Chavez, whose speed I would describe as decent. He was not a fast fighter by any...
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