Battle of the fast burners. Thoughts on what happens here?
Again, Tito & Quartey @147, and probably Mosley at 154, all > 43 y/o Hopkins at 175, with Whitaker at 147 & even Chavez I at 140 not a million...
Agreed. Very similar things can be said about Don Curry who arguably lost to every great fighter he ever faced, if you take a simplistic view. If...
Never rewatched a Calzaghe fight either. There's nothing to rewatch. Just a great talent for range, natural speed and a prodigious fitness level....
Fuck sake.....can I click on a single thread without having to eaves drop on this on going lovers tiff?
And if Joe Calzaghe had ever been able to make 160lb (or 147lb in Oscar's case) this'd be relevant.
Ok cool. I'd agree Hopkins was a little better than Whitaker (though I don't think it was by loads and I think the difference is closed by the...
I think Hopkins is roughly AS good as that version of Whitaker, perhaps slightly better. Look, I don't wanna critisize Hopkins here because I rate...
A 43 year old Hopkins at 175 is NOT better than anyone Oscar beat. I don't even think he's better than the Whitaker Oscar beat at 147. As I said I...
Seriously.....comparisons with Darius make much more sense than comparisons with Jones & Hopkins. He's somewhere between those levels along with...
In fairness I think both just know rather allot about boxing history so tend to have broadly overlapping opinions.:popcorn: Let's all get along.
Get a room, you two :lol:
Calzaghe over Foster, Pryor, Napoles, Griffith, Harada, Holmes, Moore, Holyfield, Gavilan, Benitez, Ortiz, Williams, Olivares......poor show, IMO....
I didn't say anything about removing the 30s wins. Just that enough of his career happened in the 40s to include him as a fighter of the 40s...
Clear wins over Hopkins & Toney go a long way in my book. Though I think he's too high.
Is it useful to make a distinction between these two intangibles? I think of chin as the ability to take single shots, while durability is the...
Look, it's a tired point by now and I realize it always comes off as grasping-excusery (sic!), but it's nonetheless true - Tyson DECLINED after...
If you give me what sort of rough word count your looking for I'll try and throw something together on monday.
Look Kaukip, the guys 44 fucking years old. If he's fighting somebody who's punch output he's able to reduce to an absolute snails pace he's still...
In all honesty Feebes, I wouldn't have the first idea on how to go about that. Feel free to post the results with any comments you wanna augment...
I think a Hopkins' defeat hurts his legacy marginally more than it helps Jones'. For that reason (in the hope that two great fighters finish their...
Just so happened that 25 names were way ahead of everyone else. These seemed to be the 25 the collective ranked as indisputably best, just seemed...
Our opinions are just THAT damn important.:bears:
Coulda been worse :lol: Personally I think Chavez is too high, Saddler too low. I can't take a list with Louis & Jofre outside the top ten...
This is what the collective computed: 1. Ray Robinson 2. Roberto Duran 3. Ray Leonard 4. Muhammed Ali 5. Julio Cesar Chavez 6. Willie Pep...
I agree with everything you say. I would say Calzaghe & Hopkins are BOTH examples of guys better at 35 than 25 though. Lennox Lewis another one....
If you had Calzaghe 'dominating' that fight we watched different fights. Calzaghe's wore Hopkins down with his shear workrate which at that point...
Yes it was. Not by a huge screaming distance, but it definitely was.
Yeah but guys age at different rates as we've established. I think Joe was a better fighter at that point than he was in say 99-00. Certainly he...
"When I was the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world it wouldn’t have been smart for me to go and fight Joe. You don’t go to somebody else when...
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