Mosley took the steroids unwittingly, I believe him because I want to believe him and because I think he deserves due process. However, that does...
Only when the participants are allowed to reach 147. If one or both of them are proscribed from reaching 147 on weigh-in then it is a...
He admitted taking a proscribed substance. Once. For an injury. As any juicer will tell you, its the cycling and stacking of steroids that does...
As I keep saying.....I think the were great fights. I just dont think they were welterweight fights. Valcarel, the guy who runs the WBO, is...
He did not take a performance enhancing product. He did not take products offered up by a company in the business of producing illicit junk. He...
I knew it. You thought this was an Anti-Floyd thread, didnt ya??? The name of the thread is "The WW div is Dead"...not..."Floyd is a Cunt" Floyd...
Coolio......
I never made that argument Reed, so, please, dont try to muddy the waters. If a fighter wants to be a welterweight Champ, he should accept that...
Any luck with that anecdotal klitschko doping evidence?
Yeah. Why are they agreeing to it? Because their arm is twisted. PS I understood that the WW limit was 147.
HBO invented it with the tacit approval of fight-starved fans, who were prepared to see tradition trampled in exchange for marquee events. Do I...
I dont mind catchweight. What I mind is catchweight masquerading as welterweight when the only true welterweight in it has been forced to make a...
Yes. Essentially, Welterweights must be allowed to weigh in at 147. Forcing a fighter to weigh less than the division permits is arbitrary,...
I will give you an example of what does tarnish the division: Tiger Flowers being allowed only 10 rounds vs Mickey Walker. This put Flowers at a...
Which must be a false premise. Welterweight is both fighters being allowed to reach but not exceed 147. In forcing Cotto to accept 145 {a weight...
Precisley Baron. There are two aspects to being a welterweight, one is that your opponent may not weigh more than 147 at the weigh in, the other...
That is irrelevant. You said that it was "commonly accepted" that the Klitschkos were roiding. Commonly accepted by whom and based on what?
It isn't. What is hard to understand is Val's hesitancy in accepting my argument about denying a "Welterweight" fighter the full breadth of the...
Thats correct. The tradition has been in place a long long time too. What we now have is a schismatic system based on weights and bargaining...
Dude, you need to read what is written. I think that fighters like Pacquaio, Mayweather.....are fantastic. I also think they have, between them,...
I said that. I said he got done off non-piss related circumstances. First sentence of post #37. I intimated further that it was a paper trail...
Okay- so, by way of keeping the debate going, we now have welterweight title fights, as the norm, between guys who are physically not suited to...
Is the Dirrell-AA fight in Germany? They robz ya in Germany, ya knowz this, rite?
Obviously not so easy that Mosley got done off non-piss related testing. And Toney and Jones gone "done" off piss tests. So......no matter what...
Welterweight Division stipulates a limit of 147 which the vast/gross preponderance of all fighters {especially bona fide welterweights} attempt to...
Okay. So that is plural. Now go and show me proof, and if you cannot find proof, then anecdotal evidence at the very least, that both brothers are...
Go back and REED it again.
I think Reed wanted to say that, but got caught up in a no-win argument ove steroids and plaster of paris.
Nice try. Welterweight-Catchweight. A supremely technical lawyer effort which I myself would be proud of. It doesnt wash because the division...
Hamed dominated Ingle early, flooring him twice, then Haveebs night-manoeuvres started catching up with him, he got tired and he was maybe one...
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