OK, then remove the Machida-Evans example from my 'one mistake' post. But you still get the point.
Not really. GSP has consistently been in the Top 5 and he is far more known for his wrestling and take down defense. Wrestling is the great...
The first round was very close. I'm not sure it was close enough to score it for Evans, but it wasn't an easy round for Machida.
I'm not sure where I said anything about Machida making a mistake. I mentioned Evans against Machida. And it was a relatively close fight until...
:lol: Good point.
But it's a current P4P list. Recent results are huge, in my opinion. GSP tapping with Serra years ago isn't as relevant as Fedor losing in his...
Maynard is close and I agree a win over Edgar (again) will put him on my list. Sonnen should be banned from the list based on PED usage. Who...
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I'm not sure how you can justify that when he was forced to tap in less than 3 minutes in his very last fight. Can you really continue to have...
Your idea of 'link' based on the involvement of pro wrestlers is fine. There were many pro wrestlers involved in Pride and the Shooto Organization...
Again, choosing to show the link between pro wrestling and MMA by citing Lesnar as an example also chooses to ignore the fact that his...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that was your original point. Guys that spend their lives in competitive wrestling have nowhere to go beyond...
I have no issue with the notion that MMA as we see it today has roots in professional wrestling. But that wasn't your original assertation. You...
Dude, I agree 100% on Fitch. With the exception of GSP, who is the #1 guy, Fitch has rolled over the entire division in racking up a 12-1 record...
Here is a look at Yahoo Sport's Top 10 as determined by reader's votes: <TABLE><THEAD><TR><TH class=fighter>Fighter Rankings</TH><TH...
Buddy, you do understand that Steve isn't really interested in debating the origins of the sport. He is simply trying to diminish MMA by implying...
If Andrew and I had a real spat, I'd be on here more often just to fuck with his Canadian ass. And then I'd make fun of Michael J. Fox and Wayne...
Sure, MMA is linked to many things including pro wrestling. It is not however, ".... ALL linked to 80's pro wrestling in Japan" as you originally...
Talking shit is one thing. Chatting about an agreement on where to take the fight is another. To me it just demonstrates that neither guy is...
I understand you clearly. I especially understood when you said: "It's ALL linked to 80's pro wrestling in Japan":atu: I don't care if that...
Now you're bothering me. Do I really have to give a remedial class here. Vale Tudo is a Portugese term and describes events held in Brazil...
Actually yes, I clearly disputed this point: "It's ALL linked to 80's pro wrestling in Japan":atu: Again, do the research and get back...
I wonder if I need to explain to Steve that Vale Tudo 'spawned' the UFC before it spawned Pride.
:lol: The day you make me look stupid in a thread is the day I quit posting. You seriously don't have near the intelligence for that. Don't...
I don't care how much he added. This conversation should be grounds for neither of them getting paid. If this causes fans to think that anything...
:lol: I am actually quite well-read on the history of MMA. And that is probably why I wouldn't make the comment: "It's all linked to 80's pro...
I am very familar with shoot fighting and the organization. So is that the link between present day MMA and pro wrestling you were talking about?
Having never been a pro wrestling fan nor having watched it in my entire life, I am very curious about the MMA-Pro Wrestling link. How is cage...
Agree. There wasn't even serious effort or intentions on the knee that got him the knockout. It was almost like Mir and Cro Cop had an...
He didn't say they shouldn't call it professional. He said they shouldn't call it wrestling. :lol: The funny thing is that until MMA became...
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