If that's what you consider talent to be. But like I said, I was thinking in terms of physical talent. With training, of course you can improve...
If he is powerful, fast, can jump really high, but isn't an elite basketball player? Then yes, of course he is still physically talented, he...
No way. The Klitschkos have not become more athletic in the slightest, they have become more polished and crafty. David Haye has become a bit...
In terms of physical talent as I made a distinction of, Judah without a doubt. And I say that with King Carlos being one of my favourite fighters...
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I'll reply to your posts as much as I want, you prick. So the piece above salivates over how natural a fighter Sanchez was, which was what I...
Are you insane? Sanchez wasn't fast, wasn't an exceptional puncher, wasn't particularly athletic. So how exactly is he as talented as Duran,...
It's a fair point. I guess at face value I'm used to classifying talent just as physical talent, talent you can see in motion - athleticism,...
Having natural fighting instinct isn't the same as physical talent, that guys like Pacman, Duran and Tyson have in abundance. Sanchez might have...
As odd as it sounds, a good chin is talent yes :lol: But skill can be taught. Some are better at learning skills and applying them than others,...
Exactly. And yes, Judah is a prime example of why physical talent isn't the be all and end all. Nothing wrong with being skilled instead of...
Totally agree. He is far more suited to 140. Berto against the top guys at 140 are closer to pick em fights, but I think (and seemingly most...
Yep, he was skilled, not overly talented - just like Marquez.
His style is most comparable to Marquez, and of course, Marquez is the fighter that's given Manny the most trouble apart from Erik in the first...
Excellent post. And I agree, forget the KO ratio, Valero clearly doesn't have brutal 1 punch power at 135. But he's aggressive, pretty accurate,...
He was technically good, but not particularly talented. Wasn't that fast, wasn't that powerful. It's been a while since I watched a Sanchez fight,...
You said it. That's what it boils down to. Not that he's out and out ducked everyone, more that he hasn't made the effort to consistently...
I don't think he was better than them, certainly not in every single department. Although he could box - he was fairly slow for a featherweight....
Don't you wish Floyd had tested himself more for the past 5 years though Sly? Maybe fought Mosley already, fought someone like Paul Williams,...
Good post, I was thinking Duran would win 8-4 type decision too, after pretty much overwhelming Floyd, with Floyd being too defensive. Regarding...
Good post. I'd certainly say Flid beats most guys in history at 130 and even 135. But despite me saying Floyd would school Tito, that's more down...
Hagler - Hopkins would be a close fight. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Nard won. He is one of the best middleweights ever without a doubt....
I could see that happening, to be fair. Arabham's workrate is rather pathetic to say the least. I just can't pick a proven bitch in a big fight....
Sly, the thing is, Duran isn't just an 80's legend. For a start, his prime was 70's, but that's beside the point, the fact is, Duran is...
True, the level of disagreement on the recent fiasco was quite surprising :kidcool:
Hey Hut, as you may have seen, I said as much in this thread. It's a complete over simplification. There were some rounds where Leonard DID try...
I don't like either of them, but I am picking Arabham. As much as I dislike Arabham's style and think he is becoming overrated, he is tough, as...
A big misconception. Because Duran quit, people seem to sort of imagine a scenario that didn't exist, where Duran was getting whitewashed. I think...
Prime Hatton had underrated athleticism and footwork, but Duran was still far more athletic and much faster and more accurate. Even though...
I disagree Leonard was green. I think Leonard was at his peak then. He didn't change much, just like Floyd didn't. Floyd has got a bit craftier,...
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