Yeah but I think LOK meant that from the same weight class nobody beats Pavlik. Floyd against middleweights isn't out of the question, but the...
Calzaghe would beat Floyd too :dunno:
Agreed. And it says, the best fighter, not the best boxer. I think Floyd has at least two very credible contenders from fighters that are his...
:notallthere: You are a boxing intellectual who understands the importance of styles. I get that. Still you have to understand that the case...
It does not work ALWAYS but usually it is pretty relevant to consider how fighters do against common opponents.
That is the ONLY way to rank them fair. But sure, if you want to join the mass who rank them based on how flashy they look, how good they would be...
Based on how they rank compared to others in their division, my list reads as follows (only real athletes included) 1. Calzaghe - right now has...
because you are the biggest, quickest bandwagon jumper in the history of the sport and don't try to deny it
You are not. You are just a crappy fan :tease:
i have that criteria for the Fight of the Yearm but not for the KO. The KO is all about brutality
Agreed. The fact that it was a stoppage somehow counts against it being the best KO of the year:dunno:
That way you do get a good record :lol:
Yes, but that was not a sanctioned pick
Fighter of the Year: Pavlik Fight of the Year: Calzaghe-Kessler (skilful, exciting, evenly-fought plus great build-up) KO of the year: Abraham-Gevor
10-0. I have lost a couple of exhibition picks though
Exactly. That is why guys fighting at welter shouldn't get a free pass in p4p lists for having "started at featherweights"
Depends on what you want him to be seen as? If you want to see him being a great talent, he has proven that many times already. Especially as a...
He has proven that he deserves the title. He has NOT proven that he stands clearly above the rest of the division as he has legitimate challengers...
The difference with them is that unlike others, Floyd doesn't have to prove himself.
Maybe I misread you but it sounded as if you were indicating that Oscar's loss was less meaningful if he lost because of stamina, which I strongly...
But it is pretty weird to think that a seasoned, clever fighter such as Oscar would simply stop using the jab for no reason
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What you don't consider here is that Mosley was an active fighter (and at the top of the division at that) which Oscar wasn't
That really seems to be the case. If you don't confess your lust for Floyd, then you are a racist hater
This makes Floyd look even better :clap: :clap:
Might be, but IMHO Floyd could give it a try by fighting at least one top-3 welterweight don't you think?:clap:
Sorry, but this makes no sense at all. Take a breath, think about it logically and you'll understand
He is the titlist yes. But you tell me if he has cleaned out the division? Has he? If you say no, then we agree here
The difference is, Woods and Federer have FACED and BEATEN all the best opponents around. Floyd hasn't fought very many of the best fighters of...
Exactly :lol: And without beating other welterweights he proves that he is not only the best welterweightm but the best fighter in the...
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