I have ripped Toney for being one-dimensional (beautiful dimension, but still one dimension) for years while others vomited out utter bullshit...
I am not disagreeing with that at all
Nobody's saying its his fault, only that it mitigates the impact somewhat... Roy would have beaten him anyway, for what its worth, so the win is...
I'd argue the Bernard he beat was far from fully developed as a fighter... he was nowhere near as clever as he would later be and I'd argue that...
Chavez and Whitaker fought at a catchweight... Nelson would have whupped the ass of basically any other lightweight in the world at that time......
probably his skills are shit
a terribly out of shape Toney
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Yup the present incarnation would be chased out of the ring by Jerry Martin, never mind the top guys
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It is because I am a boxing fan that I can't name too many guys who hold these meaningless titles
the also-rans of that division would chase him out of the ring
it should be noted that Brown did fight in a 15 rounder against Tyrone Trice, stopping him in the 14th in an amazing fight no one talks about
true:lol: as soon as the beginning bell for round 13 rang, Brown would disappear like Marty McFly's relatives in the picture in "Back To The Future"
Jones too fast... horrible, boring fight.... Hopkins wins some rounds, has a moment or two, but Jones is too quick and Hopkins would respect his power
same, I don;t think I could name three with any certainty
sure but Calzaghe would be a worse one at any time
nah... somewhere in the middle I believe
mikE can spew whatever bullshit he likes... these belts are highly devalued, at least as any sort of descriptor of quality... if he wants to argue...
but at 147 pounds?
I thought he was for a hot minute... I seem to recall him being ranked there by The Ring
Only if you take them seriously
I have no interest in the belts... Haven't paid attention to them in at least a decade
Calzaghe never "killed" anyone with even a moderate skill level... he'd beat Trinidad simply because he is much bigger, not because he is any...
this yes, he looks good for 48... but the opponents have A LOT to do with it
if he were fighting the top 10 of 1979 in that division, he'd have a string of one-sided defeats by now
Trinidad or Mosley would be up there If Calzaghe were ever p4p #1, that would be worse than either of those guys being there
exactly:giggle:
pretty much:lol:
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