Again....both fought exactly like they always do. Those dedicated hours with his flashdance fitness DVD won it for Joe in the latter half of the...
Calzaghe takes no credit for Ward's win. Nice try though :lol:
Both men use angles in every fight. Ward fought exactly like he always does (throwing about 60% as many 'punches' as Joe) and so did Calzaghe.
The blueprint of deciding to win instead of lose?
:lol: MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMZZ
Ward fights nothing like Calzaghe
A street fight's more about who can judge when to strike first, misdirect the other guy, create an element of surprise etc. Intangibles/nous as...
I've always thought Tszyu was super-overrated but I've sorta fallen in love with his style a decade late. Seek and destroy *dun dun dun dun dun dun*
You're taking about 'amount of hype at the time'. Everyone else is talking about fights.
At boxing? Mancini KO 3
.....lets just agree that some guys are worse after their first loss some aren't and it's a case by case judgement, even if we disagree on this...
Boxing history's littered with fighters ruined forever by their first in-ring bruise.:notallthere:
I'm using the 'low impact split decision' example as the straightest hypothetical line between the 'L' and us knowing he wasnt diminished...
It just changes everybodys perspective. If Cotto wins a close SD decision in a low impact fight, then Floyd fights Pac 5-6 months later, it's...
Not unless A) Cotto beats him bad enough to take allot out of him B) Mayweather takes another 2 year break and fights Pac aged 36 odd.
Exactly. I'd say it 'depends' on so many other things people should just stop bringing it up all the time. The example that inspired the thread...
I think as a general principle, it's horseshit
I hear this all the time at fightbeat - it doesn't make sense. Of course, it sometimes happens that a guy takes a real beating in his first loss...
Interesting that the person with by far the most acerbic hatred of all things english isn't the Scot or any of our Irishmen but our Geordie...
Or put it in proper context
Tea Party logic.
Ricardo Torres? So?:lol: Kelson Pinto? So?:lol:
The 5lb diminishes the win, but it's STILL better than anybody on Cotto's resume.
Torres only meaningful win - a come behind Ko win against Kendall Holt - avenged one fight later. Kelson Pinton lost to a 500 year old Vince...
What was great about Torres?
Why, because you've decided he was shot? With the same whimsical disregard for evidence you bring to most your opinion making. What makes...
Tszyu & Castillo > everybody you typed.
The guy who went 11 rounds without being visibly rocked vs Tszyu has the suspect chin in this match up; not the guy who did a funky chicken...
Even the Jirove fight was that way; crowd booing jab Judah yelling bullshit. I thought Toney won by about 8 frigging points.
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