How?
yes it is
Lead punchers dont average under 40 throws a round. Not if the label means anything useful in analyzing fights and fighters. You say he 'led...
As I said, I've already went through my opinions on what constitutes a counter puncher, in my book. Going backwards/forwards isn't the criteria,...
Wasn't suggesting they were inferior. Just that the abject lack of notable blacks after Gavilan is kinda historically anomalous, piqued my curiosity.
In Bute's last 3 fights he averaged less than 40 punches a round. His career average is under 50 & falling sharply as he & his opposition...
I'd go further and say he didn't start struggling until after the Maxim fight & subsequent lay off. Given the extraordinary circumstances...
For the record. TLC's opinion is fine. UGTBK has a similar one, Irish is of a similar mind. Go to Ugo's thread from earlier today, I played...
^Lucian Bute you odious little fud. That he doesn't tuck his chin behind his shoulder would disqualify Ali from having a 'black style'. And I...
Define the 'black style' please.
FUCK OFF, YOU OBNOXIOUS LITTLE PRICK
No, Floyd is slick. He's a guy who's so difficult to hit and so accurate he reduces his opponents standard output by about 40-50%. Then STILL...
They were both defensive genius' - beyond that not terribly similar. I should disclaim at this point that Locche is my fave fighter in history so...
He was a level of genius all of his own. I can't think of a black fighter who fought remotely like him.
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Joe Calzaghe wasn't 'slick'. He was a volume puncher with good feet.
This is just like you Ramonza - coming into to discussions of modern fighters and bringing the past into everything. Bert Sugar wannabe. :pissed::lol:
Bute. Low hands, slick, low output pot shotting counter puncher. He's as black as the night. Stop commenting on boxing please.
Boxing is full of wiggers right now.
Dmitry Pirog, Sergio Martinez, Paul McCloskey, Lucian Bute
Kirkland-Margarito would be one holy shit heck of a fight, BTW
Right, Kirkland is the opposite of a counter puncher. The guy throws 85 punches a round, coming forward incessantly. He's a swarmer. *maybe...
I'll check him out, cheers.
Final amended list 1) Pac 2) Donaire 3) Bute 4) Martinez 5) Pirog 6) Marquez 7) Vitali 8) Dawson 9) Ward T) Montiel
Also - what people do with their feet/the geography of the ring can be misleading. Some lead-volume punchers move around the ring (Calzaghe/welter...
I think people are getting temperament and style mixed up. They aren't the same.
I don't even know what the term means, tbh :lol: If James Toney, who regularly threw north of 70 shots and had guys like Jirov & Charles Williams...
To me these labels can be really misleading. I don't see any major similarities in the style of Marquez and 00's Hopkins say. I see none at all...
In fairness to Mike he was barely 3 fights out of jail, a certain leeway with that one seems in order. (Although when you pretend to be a 'world...
Because he's going to jail and generally shows no inclination of ever fighting again. Fuck Floyd Mayweather I'm sick of the sight and sound of his...
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