Wilder is ONLY "Elite" within the Confines of his DIVISION...He's an "Elite" HEAVYWEIGHT, Whereas, Felix Trinidad was an "Elite" FIGHTER, Given...
agREED... The Term Can Be Used in a DIVISIONAL Sense as Well...Say What You Will about the Division Itself, but Chris Arreola WAS an "Elite"...
Absolutely... It's Conceivable to have Been an "Elite" Fighter, w/Out EVER Being Considered "Great"... REED:mj:
Speaking SOLELY About Himself, REED Can't Say he Uses Resume EXCLUSIVELY, when Handicapping Fights...Ali-Liston, Foreman-Frazier, Pac-Barrera,...
The Cornucopia of "World Champions", PER Weight Class, has Resulted in the Gray Area that IS the "Elite" Fighter Discussion... Even in the Mid...
Seems to Have Good Power...Absolutely STRETCHED Tonight's Opponent... REED:up:
Camacho @ 130 was Definitely Elite, but that Status Decreased as his Weight Increased... REED:mj:
agREED... Both in Terms of SIZE & STYLE, Tommy Hearns was a BAD Matchup for Duran...No Harm, No Foul...But that's NO Different than Winky...
That's just It, Nonito Donaire WAS on a Higher Level than Lomachenko Currently Is, @ the Time of the Rigondeaux Bout...Both in Terms of...
ALL That's to Be Gleaned from that Pic is Trinidad Did a Piss Poor Job of JABBING Winky Wright... Has NATHAN to Do w/Him Being an Elite...
Touche'... If PUNCHSTATS are a Determining Factor, POSTURE Should Also Be Relevant... Punchstats???...Really???...Who's the Greatest...
To REED, there's Very Little Argument AGAINST Tito Trinidad Being an ELITE Fighter... Yes, he LOST to the Best Guy(s) he Faced, but he was 1 of...
Was Felix "Tito" Trinidad an "Elite Fighter"???... REED:scared:
agREED... Rigondeaux-Lomachenko Talk DOESN'T Need to Be Hijacked by Arguments Involving Other Fighters AND Sports, FFS... REED:partie:
When Tito "Beat" DeLa and Moved Up to '54, Vargas and David Reid were the ONLY Jr. Middles that Mattered...And Tito Beat BOTH of Them, Handily......
:palm: Here we Go Again... Fernando Vargas wasn't "Elite"???...Tito Beat the BRAKES Off Vargas, who Beat Ike Quartey MORE Convincingly than DeLa...
Just to Clarify, Do You Mean the 2 Years LEADING UP to the Rigondeaux Bout???... REED:mj:
The Only Thing REED is 'Defensive" about is the Notion Nonito was in "Decline" Going Into his Fight w/Rigondeaux... There is NO Evidence of That,...
REED Gave Donaire the Benefit of a Late Knockdown, but Otherwise NAILED that Bout... REED:mj:
But that's just It, Donaire MOVED UP to '26, Right After Losing to Rigondeaux @ '22... Sooooo, You Could just as Easily Say he Lost Due to SIZE...
And what REED is Saying is, You and Others WEREN'T Necessarily ACCURATE In Your Assessments Either...Yet, that Seems to Be Prevailing Wisdom by...
So Basically, You Burned the Candle from BOTH Ends, yet Still Want CREDIT???:dunno:... By Your OWN Admission, You Said Nonito was in Decline AND...
Nice HINDSIGHT Assessment of Rigondeaux-Donaire... Damn Shame NOBODY (Like Those that Awarded him 'Fighter of the Year', for Instance) Saw Any...
Which 1 of Lomachenko's 5 Opponents Give You Confidence he'll BEAT Rigondeaux???... REED:mj:
FUN Build-Up for Certain... Could Be an Interesting Fight if Briggs CHIN CHECKS Wilder Early, Before his SHIT Stamina Starts to Kick In......
agREED... Needs to Happen in 2015 for Certain... REED:mj:
As REED Types, Lomachenko IS NOT as Big a "Name" as Nonito Donaire Was, when Rigondeaux Schooled Him...In Fact, Donaire was Coming Off "Fighter of...
Rigondeaux's a NATURAL 118 Pounder, so a Catchweight BENEFITS him for Certain... The X-Factor is, HOW Does Lomachenko Handle Rigondeaux's...
Definitely Bizarre on PAPER... But when You Consider NEITHER are American Fighters, ie., NO Pressure or Expectation to Turn Pro in a Hurry, it...
Give REED Rigondeaux... If Lomachenko Makes a Consistently Aggressive Go at Rigondeaux, he'll REGRET it...The Better the Opponent, the BETTER...
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