:lol: How is he unproven when he went to war with Berto and won? Was Floyd "unproven" at 135lbs after his 2nd fight with Castillo? By your...
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Again you're arguing a point no one is making. The discussion is merely about ranking in terms of greatness not whether someone has a better name...
So you're trying to tell me that Weaver, Coetzee, Baer, JERRY QUARRY, EARNIE SHAVERS, JIMMY YOUNG are greater Heavyweights than Wlad? Quarry...
This is the problem. A fighter is young and prime with a title and he's suddenly green and unproven. A man is in his mid to late 30s with all...
Are you a "Wlad is Top 40 material" guy like Cdogg?
It's an insult to ME actually, not to you. You should be happy that he gave you such a high compliment actually.
No one ever said that Baldomir was some GREAT fighter. All I merely ever said was that he was the true champ at the time. James Braddock will...
Nah..it's a wash. Shane Mosley's a greater name than Berto and a very formidable opponent, sure. But Shane had already been beaten twice by...
:giggle: Beating undefeated Berto is as good as any Cotto performance at 147lbs.
Have at it. I think it would be a GREAT fight. Both men would get bounced up and down as seems to be customary for an Ortiz fight. Gimme...
Toughest fight, stylewise, for a prime Ali. I've often pondered this one. I believe Ali would take the decision as both men will decide to...
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AARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!! :pissed::bangh:
Disagree. Tyson's career is the most underrated heavy career in history. He used to be overrated and now everyone has overcompensated. He...
word. It's just knee-jerk reactions by the forum elitists. No way can anyone justify Wlad being outside of the top 20. Not possible.
By that criteria everyone suffers. A Prime Joe Louis was knocked out by an old Max Schmeling for instance. Just pointing that out...
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True. I may turn Purple though..and that should count to be fair. :lol:
That's cool. I disagree on those rounds, but I know you're consistent with this point in many other discussions that we've had so I respectfully...
So then it should be easy for a man as knowlegeable as yourself (I mean that sincerely) to provie a list of 30 heavyweights that you rank above...
Coopers name isn't in isolation. FUCK talking about Cooper! I also mentioned Mercer, Stewart, Douglas, Moorer. My point is..Bowe and Tyson were...
We're talking about greatness not head to head. So you harping on size and other shit is merely a distraction....a distraction which I'm not going...
Cooper was a tough little punk! And again...I'm not basing his entire career on Cooper alone. Have you been reading my posts? Many people think...
Not in my opinion. Again..it all boils down to how you score round 5, because that round was a microcosm of the fight. It's subjective. I saw...
Strawman! I gave the definition...now provide your list of 30 fighters.
Achievements + dominance compared with his peers + competition. Now provide your list of 30 fighters...
May-Pac would do ridiculous numbers. May-Ortiz will be huge let alone May-Pac.
Name 30 fighters greater than Wlad, dude. Since you are calling Wlad merely a Top 40 fighter! Don't run from it. Answer it or changed your fucked...
You don't have to care about my position to be honest with you...it's the only position to take. I happen to think that Morales won the first...
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