he wasn't busy enough and he allowed himself to be out-worked at times, but i think "out-boxed" is a little strong. i thought he won the fight...
like i said, if i were Roach, i'd have been frustrated too.
ok. but what about those who predicted a wipe-out domination on the part of PBF? weren't they just as wrong?
Pacquiao/JMM II Vazquez/Raphael þ Calzaghe/Kessler PBF/Mosley Margarito/Williams þ Hatton/Castillo þ Mijares/Castillo Vic/Luis...
there's no way PBF would fight Forrest.
he's referring to Castillo and ODH, and the fact that PBF "beat" Castillo twice.
ok, i give PBF credit. i didn't think he'd be able to deal with ODH's punching power the way he did. and when PBF moved, ODH couldn't touch him....
it was funny - in the first round, ODH did throw and land at least two low-blows.
if i were Freddie, i'd be pissed. seemed like ODH was in his own world in there, not listening to Freddie at all.
Bull-shit. PBF didn't throw one "pull-counter" the whole fight. And if he had, it wouldn't have landed. He can only pull that off against guys...
yes! a lot of people framed the fight as a mismatch going in. most conceded that it would be close, but just answering your question - there were...
he just stopped because in fact, ODH was not hurt. and trading with Oscar was exactly what he needed NOT to do.
maybe. but i don't think there's any way PBF is gonna KO ODH. the only time PBF's offense bothered ODH at all was on the counter, when he got ODH...
so you think both fighters had to exercise restraint? in order not to dominate the other?
yeah. i picked ODH to win. so in that respect, PBF surprised me. he did better than i expected, obviously. so i give him credit.
yeah i was surprised he was able to take some of the punches he did.
just call it like i see it. seems like ODH could've won easily if he'd jabbed. for some reason he didn't. i'll never understand why. and so far...
what if they jabbed though? they'd have to sign a no-jab clause just like ODH apparently did.
also, he starts laughing in an attempt to down-play the fact that he's being dominated.
Ok. So maybe the question is, why does ODH's stamina suck so bad?
according to Max, it was a virtuoso performance by PBF. :lol: :laughing: :laughing:
what did i say that's retarded? do you deny that ODH was ruling the ring when he used his jab? and that it's puzzling why he didn't use it more?
i don't know, but it was effective as hell, to the point that i wouldn't rule out that the fix was in. when ODH started throwing it, PBF would...
but even the fights he clearly won he gets no credit for. Chavez was over the hill. Ruelas "sucked." G. Hernandez he beat at 135. Vargas was shot....
agreed. not to mention a situation in which a girl lies about her age. i agree though. it depends on the case. potentially, it can be a serious...
we can't all be groupies like you Karl. the sport needs objective viewers too who don't base their preferences on the amount of access a fighter...
well, his fights at 135 and below are nearly irrelelvant. so that leaves his bout with Judah, Baldomir, Corley and Gatti. wow. he's really taken...
so what's your point? has ODH forgotten how to move forward?
my hope is that PBF tries the lunge and lean on Oscar, and finds out he's not strong enough to pull it off against a guy like Oscar, only it's too...
you don't think ODH can catch up to PBF, like he did, for example, against Coley or Mosley? and no, i'm not comparing PBF to Derrell Coley. but in...
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