I seem to recall Harding tearing his bicep, because...as you said...Roy Targeted the bicep. The point still stands though, Harding was winning...
Good call on De La Hoya-Chavez. Silly rematch, Chavez had about as much chance as an ice cube in an inferno.
lol Genius
Yup. Leonard-Hagler my ass. I don't think it was fixed, per se, I just think that Oscar knew he was getting beaten up and would have rather...
Liston-Patterson springs to mind. Only one I can think of.
Good breakdown and Zab Judah is a prime example of this. Not sure X's Broner qualifies though. Zab Judah showed his lack of intelligence against...
Give me an example of him not having the IQ.
So is this topic really just about Talent vs Skill?
He does. I'm impressed with that Fin, I must admit.
T'is a good group. no doubt.
Not if you take an average. ;) This is a "mean" operation not a "sum".
Fair enough. Perhaps I'm being a little hard on Roy. Still...it was more his speed and reflexes that carried him....because after he lost them,...
Yeah but, you have to AVERAGE that shit out...not sum it! lol With the Ali-Leonard-Robinson pic...the AVERAGE talent is STAGGERING!!!!
Ok...I should qualify my remarks (and you should qualify this thread...for it to be meaningful). Trinidad had a low IQ relative to his trained...
Low ring IQ....Felix Trinidad. Supremely gifted in terms of offensive arsenal and stamina....but when things aren't going his way he has no plan...
Mike Tyson....underrated ring IQ. Had difficulty landing on Buster Mathis Jnr...so what does he do? Jumps to the right...immediately throws the...
Roy Jones....without his natural gifts...he has no contingency plan. I don't see him as a particularly intelligent fighter...just otherworldly...
Mayweather is an adjuster. For example he usually fights with the shoulder roll/ philly shell defense...he faces Zab Judah....Shoulder roll has...
On the contrary....Hopkins has to be on EVERY LIST and perhaps near or at the top of every list. He's actually the very definition of an...
I wont put a list together...but I want to discuss it. People seem to assume that ring IQ is synonymous with boxing talent. It's not necessarily...
LAWD have Mercy!
Very good.
Great also.
Of course.
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"The new network computers, they say it got smart.....it decided our fate in a microsecond" - Kyle Reese: Terminator "They marveled at the...
Not me, I'm watching that shit first night.
1: Oscar wasn't washed up and always had the style to trouble Floyd 2: Oscar would have given GGG a very hard fight if not won a close...
You and REED are coming back with good points, I'll give you that. I appreciated it when people attempt to refute my positions with good sound...
Ginger would hang with Hagler. Hagler wasn't a big Middleweight hence why he feasted on blown up lightweights and welterweights.
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