by everyone who seems to find the comparison absurd to begin with?
I think once you go beyond 130, the gulf in class between the opponents Marvin faced over his 14-15 years at 160 and the ones Manny has faced is...
Like I said, you could make a case for either man, I just don't see it as an open-and-shut, no doubt about it case Manny's comp from 122-130 is...
I think it's greatly undervalued
agreed, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's better than a guy who dominates one division for years I mean, is Georges Carpentier "greater" than...
I still think the statement "Marvin Hagler was a better middleweight than Manny Pacquiao was a 122/126/130/135/140/147 pounder" is spot on
[IMG]
Eubank would get to that jaw eventually
you can also go back to the real old days and find JImmy McClarnin and Georges Carpentier... McClarnin was a world class (for the time) flyweight...
You could make a case for either guy... Hut's post is a hugely important point that seems to be missing from everyone's knee-jerk "PACQUAIO!" response
:lol:
:hammert::cheers:
not well, IMO Lopez can force a pace that the old, deliberate McCallum just can't match... Good bout, McCallum was quality, he gives a good...
good post
I think it's more than that... Hagler was better at close quarters with his head movement, his positioning and shortening his punches... he did...
I think the reason for that is because he is nowhere near as great as people make him out to be... he's a terrific counterpuncher who throws...
I disagree... Griffith was a lot more versatile and was in with a much higher level of comp throughout his career I think McCallum fought like...
I think he could do everything Marquez could do, every bit as well... he was also a better brawler
congratulations, Jimmy! :giggle:
Barrera definitely dropped JMM Barrera was faded when they fought... I think he might have won it outright close to his prime
but FLoyd would lose only a narrow decision to Hagler, I remember you saying that
because the suppliers are way ahead of the tests, ugo, you know that Barry Bonds never tested positive either in baseball, but he also gained...
Agreed! Big fun in this fight... I could see a badly hurt Arroyo knocking Chico on his ass with a bomb, but Corrales gets up, survives the rough...
agreed
when you hit like Hamed, it can't be ruled out, for sure
That Blake fight is BRUTAL... he shook him, it seemed like, several times per round... guy took a beating from hell
I think some of that comes from the fact that the reality of the North, and the reality of Glasgow is entrenched in Sectarianism because it's a...
I personally think JMM is the only guy Pacquaio has fought who has comparable skills to Marvin Hagler... only, Marvin is better than JMM
maybe if he adopts Pacquaio's "nutrional" plan, he too can beat shitty welterweights?
if the featherweight was on a regimen of PEDs? sure, why not? JMM looked like a little old pudgy guy in there with Mayweather A few years...
Separate names with a comma.
