maybe about 30
hell no see the other thread for an explanation he is outstanding, tremendous but if you measure him up against the greatest fighters he...
bear in mind, being that good is still pretty friggin impressive though I'm sure people will act as if I called the guy a bum by comparing him...
he beat up a faded Barrera what good featherweight DIDN'T beat up Medina? Diaz was no great shakes as a fighter to begin with...
agree, but you can't make a guy retroactively great based on that alone Nobody wanted to defend the Bantamweight title against Jesus Pimentel in...
all of this is, of course, completely incorrect
you: "Stewart fucked him up" me: "a close decision loss constitutes fucking someone up?" Not a strawman argument at all... You are...
LOL, Stewart "fucked him up"? A guy doesn't have to do a whole lot in a fight to fuck someone up if that particular bout qualifies
Let me know when you get around to addressing any one of the 50 points I made dismantling your "position" Straw? Apparently, you are having...
I think Marquez is highly overrated, frankly... he's outstanding, maybe even sort of great, but I think he gets way more credit than he deserves...
Its not hard to open up against a puncher when the puncher is FUCKING HORRIBLE IN EVERY OTHER CONCEIVABLE WAY!!!! WHAT THE...
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Oh, get out of here you can not be fucking serious right now you are actually trying to pump up DERRICK JEFFERSON right now and a badly over...
agree
I don't think Haye is bright enough to use "whitewash" in such a sarcastic way I believe he literally meant the traditional usage of the term as...
agree but there are people here who have insanely high opinions of Wlad, just check out the MM section
Haye actually wins here Brewster was slovenly trash
oh come on, Ibeabuchi wasn't THAT unproven Haye has been hurt by far lesser fighters Ibeabuchi all the way in my opinion
sure I am, I am playing the "let's ignore the questions that shoot bowling-ball sized holes in my argument" game... it's your favorite you don't...
I don't believe in that THere is always a style that will trouble a fighter, no matter how great he is... there are guys who specialize in...
everytime you debate me, you make ridiculous claims I set you straight you run out of bullshit to spout back at me and then the discussion ends
If Wlad was green, Schulz was old I'm just playing along in the land of make-believe
there's nothing to get it's a bunch of made up nonsense told from the viewpoint of a child who resents history and thinks he is tearing down...
and an old Schulz when did Wladimir ripen exactly? I suppose, for the sake of your position, that would be after he was bounced around like a...
1)Foreman 217, Frazier 214 ... Foreman 223, Norton 213... Foreman 226, Lyle 221 ... Foreman 220, Ali 216 ... I must be missing something, or I...
Peter -- awful, horrible fighter who never did anything noteworthy... Wlad still fell thrice against him MERCER??? are you fucking kidding me???...
1) convenient, bullshit excuse to suit your "argument" 2) Based on what exactly? His wins over... um... who did he beat again??? Al "Ice'...
all great fights
thats cool
against the old Foreman, yes the young one kills him
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