:lol: Get it up ye Chelsea
Those Irish, Italian & Jew boys grew up tough too, back then.
:lol: Nah, Steve is indeed a well bred anti-establishment type.
:lol: You're exactly right.
If I might chime in, - at the top level there's always gonna be a natural selection aspect to this as well - taking hard punches to the head well...
:lol:
Doub, I say this in love - cut down.
Aye, nae bother. IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
Nah, it's attributable to having appalling footwork and angling against a southpaw and getting schooled more one sidedly than in any top level...
If you see it coming it won't knock you out. Seriously.
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Mayorga had a real good chin, especially if he saw punches coming. Cheriffi got KOd like expected & so did Mayorga in the end. Hopkins & wright...
You don't think Tito averaging less than 5 landed punches a round might have contributed to that a little more?
Not KOing two guys he barely hit was pretty damning evidence, admittedly :lol:
If Tony was putting plaster in his wraps and still having to wear down guys by attrition and facial injuries I doubt Tito was bouncing Vargas &...
Spadafora-Floyd and all that
well, it doesn't count in my sentence since it didn't happen at welter. Who's better between a 147 forrest & 154 Vargas seems pretty debatable to...
Forrest would be Tito's best legit welter win. Which says nearly fuck all. Pick 'em.
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Well again, post 25 is (the start of) why I disagree and I'd guess we'd just have to agree to do that.
If I'm doing that you're wiping out the possibility of technical development which seems sillier
If by modern you mean the last 15 years or so, I'm sure we'd well agree.
You can see their stance, punching technique, punch repertoir, balance, footwork.....in short, enough for an objective person.
I think genius was being slightly facetious with that 'assumption'. But really it's like comparing an A-bomb to an H-bomb in the ridiculousness...
Like Orwell says, until people can agree that 2+2 = 4, there's nothing worth saying. I strongly stand behind post 25 and could expand on it. It's...
Frankly, yes.
(and was still susceptible to left hooks (a modern shot Dempsey was in the process of birthing in the 20s))
60s Ali. But then Ali did things with his feet & upper body movement that no one else could.
Low right. Low left is fine.
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