Am i the only one who thinks accumulating 100 push ups/chin ups a day without a normal routine of sets and repetitions like maybe 4x25 for the push ups is pretty useless? :dunno:
well.. most likely you will find a pattern that works for you so you would be doing a 4X25 or something like it.. useless? not at all.. what is borderline usless is target specific lifts in the gym on a fancy machine that in real life you never really need.. to master your bodyweight is very practical
It's good and somewhat similar to what I was doing when I was climbing rope on a regular basis. Climbing a 20ft rope using just your arms. I actually got up to doing it pretty fast, and I'm sure I can get it done again.
not debating that but if i imagine i make 10 in the morning then 3 after breakfest, 5 an hour later 17 before lunch if i can force myself... and so on... :dunno:
what I love about this type of training, to me it's more "real world" it's not a set time, 3 days a week or whatever, it's not Back/bi's- chest/tri's- shoulders/legs.. etc.. it's more like just "life" it's like doing them often enough that your body just accepts that THAT is your regular workload and it adapts to it.
Real world power. I know what you're saying. Functional strength, but it still takes a toll on your tendons. I do higher rep stuff with still fairly heavy weights that gives me a great workout and really good power. Being strong is nice in that you have big numbers on your lifts and that's ego-feeding, but real power means accelerating your muscles quickly. Punching and kicking power. That's what I train for, and I still do a fun exercise or two.
Well, I've yet to attempt 100 on a Sunday, but I did 20 non-stop today and 10 in my second set, which were warmups for my back and core exercises. I could probably get it in less sets than more. I usually only do two sets, but when I get up to doing two sets of 25, I'll post it in this thread. Maybe I can work up to doing it in 4 sets or less eventually. It wouldn't surprise me with my ropeclimbing background.
yeah that makes sense actually... :bears: however i just train for looks because i'm not strong anyways so i do my lil gym shit... ::
well.. you are probably on the right track if it's just for looks.. although you'd be suprised how your back and bi's grow doing a lot of chins..
It takes a toll on my tendons though, LOK...the ropeclimbing, that is. I can't do it two days in a row or the pain is excruciating in my tendons.
really? it should also make your tendons strong. not like rapid HEAVY weightlifting.. most guys I know have issues are dealing with heavy weights.. not bodyweight.
LOK, when I did it, I would climb that rope 20-30 times, and it was around 20-25ft. By the end, I would barely make it down the rope without falling. The next day, if I tried to do it, I would start feeling pain right away after the first climb. If I tried to do it more than one or two climbs, my tendons would SCREAM in pain. I used to climb once every 3 days when I was 20-22, but now that I am in my 30s, I need a bit more recovery time. Once every 4-5 days is ideal. That said, I'll be doing chins tomorrow, 3 days after the last session because chins are much easier than climbing up and down a 20-odd foot rope using just my arms. ::
Damn, I am stuck at 24 for my first set. The second is 10. If I tried to do 100, I'd probably get it in 10 sets or so.
Only 10? Really? Damn, maybe I am overtraining. :: I'll see how I do the day after tomorrow because I'm going to start using a weight vest.
there is a lot of research and theory out there that training to failure actually is not good.. it is training you to fail.. if you come close but dont fail it's better IMO
Point me in the direction of some of that. It sounds interesting, but I find that if I go to failure on exercises like chins, my whole body is strengthened as a result, including tendons, cartilage, and other connective tissue.
:bears: Dragon door has some good stuff.. I'll post another that I read sometimes.. it's funny cuz I relate to that article.. when I worked at Golds gym, there was a former gymnast there, lbfor lb prolly ths strongest guy I have seen.. people would see him doing chins and tell me they wanted to do more chins.. and that they were doing low rep heavy pulldowns and deadlifts.. I'd say half jokingly.. "if you want to do more chins.. why dont you CHIN?" it seemed logical to me.. this kid could chin with me holding on his back!! :eeeek: he was prolly 160 and I was pushin 200 and I could get on his back like a piggyback ride and he'd do 5 chins with me on his back!! THAT to me is very impressive!
Shit, I didn't know stuff like that was possible. Yesterday I did 3 sets of 6 and 1 set of 7 reps with 5lbs around my waist. It was very easy and I could have done way more, but I'll take my time and work up to it. It really helps other exercises. I usually don't do bench presses, but yesterday I thought I would do some (last night at midnight actually). I hadn't done bench presses in at least half a year, so I worked up to 270 even though I was already dead from the workout earlier in the day. If I weren't dead, then I would have gotten 300, no problem. Still, it's not a lift on which I concentrate. The chins are sitting mighty high on my list of priorities right now, and they are making everything else stronger.
your the man Buddy.. hey.. check this out. This guy on here "Jim" is seriously impressive. one of my goals is the one arm chin and this guy does it check out his site http://beastskills.com/
If I did a one-arm chin, it would be in about a year or so. I just don't have the grip strength at this moment. In a year or so though, that may change.
if you are into it.. I'm also on a forum called "grip board" or something like that.. all about grip training.. I was doing it quite a bit for a while but dont go on much anymore.. the Chins alone seem to be helping grip some as well.. I'll tell you Buddy, I feel like I'm in pretty good shape.. not the best ever but decent and I'm pretty strong and I am NO WHERE CLOSE to doing a OAC (one arm chin) yet! one of the guys says.. once you can do 10 good chins with extra 40-50lbs on you.. you can START training for one arms..
Then I still have a long way to go. I mean, I went from doing the chins to deadlifting 275 for 10 reps, so my grip is at least average, but only the next few months will tell me what my chinning strength really is. I have a weight vest that goes up to 50lbs, so at least I have the equipment for it. :bears:
I'm not yet in best ever shape either, but I'm pretty close overall. I say about 3 more months and I'll be set.
I'm jealous.. you got the vest? I go at it "ghetto fabulous" style.. a back pack with dumbells inside ::
Yep, it has little chambers that each carry a 1lb or 2lb weight. You can remove weights, so it goes up to 50 but can be as light as you want up to that point. On top of that, I have ankle weights going up to 10lbs and I can hang a rope around my shoulder and neck to hold even more. For that matter, I could wear a knapsack on top of that with weights inside. Of course, I'd have fun jumping up to the handles which are high overhead. ::
