Don't think I've seen him fight. I only remember him for maybe beating Larry Barnes and of course I've heard of him. Is he a top guy from 1981? He wasn't mentioned on the OP. Make the list. Other people will probably join in, it's just you dipshits don't make any arguments. And it continues. Who were they compared to again? No one. Put up the comparisons and begin the discussion fully 23 pages into the thread.
fuck you guys. you are lazy intellectually and you are lazy when it comes to formulating any sort of backup to your bullshit. You didn't even list mamby as someone who makes the 1981 cut. And I'd be surprised if many of you have seen all of the guys fight who would make today's list. I'd be amazed. Is he a top guy from 1981? He wasn't mentioned on the OP. Make the list. Other people will probably join in, it's just you dipshits don't make any arguments. And it continues. Who were they compared to again? No one. Put up the comparisons and begin the discussion fully 23 pages into the thread.
Sorry man, Irish is right. I consider it beneath me to argue or debate with you. The fact is, you're wrong. That, combined with the fact your brain is broken, means it's a waste of time.
You want to make comparisons between eras, you want to judge 1981, you better know who Saoul Mamby is... I threw his name out there because I figure he's a top ten Junior Welter from that era that even only a CASUAL observer would be well aware of... the fact that you can't even evaluate the guy says all that needs to be said You can't make comparisons between now and 1981 with fucking charts and graphs and numbers... you make it with KNOWLEDGE OF THE GAME, KNOWLEDGE OF THE PARTICULARS, KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHTERS You don't know Mamby from a hole in the wall and you are telling me you can accurately assess 1981 in boxing... you're full of shit I didn't pull some forgotten name from a hat, I didn't throw Tony Baltazar at you, I didn't come at you with Bruce Finch... I hit you with a well established, world-class veteran of the time, a guy who at one time was a world champ... and you can't hang in the discussion... You don't know the the first thing of the game in 1981 and you want to debate it with me? fuck me? fuck him? ... nah, man, fuck YOU get out the calculator, stat boy
Nope...using your "logic" Chavez has the better record...so he's better. I still can't believe you try to float this bullshit line of reasoning.
There's no way this bonehead has ever seen Mamby fight or knows a thing about him. He MAY have seen the name in passing on BoxRec, but that's about it. Plus...once Mike runs to Boxrec, he will see that Mamby had more than 2 career losses. And of course this means Mamby couldn't possibly be any good. And yes...not knowing a thing about the fighters that made up this era invalidates any thoughts of him making an informed comparison. Which will result in a complete waste of time for anyone bothering to discuss this with him.
See...this is what makes mikE so "special". Even folks like Sly, Jaws and Neil...who spare no opportunity (or create one, no matter how half-assed or immature it is, when none is available), to act like complete douchebags toward me disagree with this. And Irish...who loves to argue and split hairs just for the fuck of it (and also for the love of Vitali) knows it as well. Only mikE, with that "special" tenacity of those who really don't know what they are talking about...clings to this belief that the eras are comparable. And you know what?? I wish the sport was in better shape as well. I said that in the first post in this topic. Which is something some folks choose to ignore because then they can't call me a hater or some other such nonsense.
Dude don't complain about me and others acting like "douchebags" (incredibly juvenile word btw) towards you...when YOU are the one who provokes it all the time, especially with me. You have this ridiculously conceited attitude towards anyone who disagrees with your position, acting as if they are agenda driven or never seen a fight earlier than the 90s etc etc etc. You even insist on calling me by my first name to to be annoying. Live by the sword you die by the sword. If you act like a cunt you'll be treated like a cunt.
Alright you fucking retard, show me the quote where I said a better record means someone is a better fighter. Again... Is he a top guy from 1981? He wasn't mentioned on the OP. Make the list. Other people will probably join in, it's just you dipshits don't make any arguments. And it continues. Who were they compared to again? No one. Put up the comparisons and begin the discussion fully 23 pages into the thread.
It's because we don't have any respect for you, man. It's hard to have a debate when you don't respect what the other guy is about.
I don't think you know a fucking thing about this era. Back it up. Or at least try. You are one of several nostalgic whiners on this site who don't and probably can't back up their bullshit. If I don't know anything about the era, it ought to be easy to make your case. Oh, but now let's fall on the transparent ad hominem crap to justify not even trying to prove anything. Again... Is he a top guy from 1981? He wasn't mentioned on the OP. Make the list. Other people will probably join in, it's just you dipshits don't make any arguments. And it continues. Who were they compared to again? No one. Put up the comparisons and begin the discussion fully 23 pages into the thread.
Once again you avoid a simple question. I think you and cdogg are fucking morons most of the time, but prove me wrong this time. No problems at all with broadway except in this thread where he pulled one of my pet peeves and waxed nostalgic in a bullshit way. Back it up, simpleton.
Sorry, the burden is on you to prove the clearly inferior year (2011) is better than the clearly superior one ('81) That, and as I said, I don't have any respect for you - I really don't care what you have to say. "Prove the sky is blue, fuck!" - mikE
The problem with trying to prove you dipshits wrong isn't that it's all that hard, it's just that you keep shifting the argument. I'm waiting for you/cdogg/broadway joe/any other person who wants to take over the position to commit to a position. I've already said, and so have others, that the general proposition is bullshit. "Once again you avoid a simple question. I think you and cdogg are fucking morons most of the time, but prove me wrong this time. No problems at all with broadway except in this thread where he pulled one of my pet peeves and waxed nostalgic in a bullshit way. Back it up, simpleton. "
I've never seen someone consistently put up such stupid drivel as mikE "you're one of several nostaligic writers who don't know anything about today" where the fuck are you in the round-by-round, mister "if you don't shell out money to watch all of HBO's table scraps, you aren't a real boxing fan" ? I'm in there breaking down what's going on in the fight, putting an opinion out there of what one fighter or another is doing right/wrong... where are you??? sitting aorund, waiting for the result so you can add it to the stats? like steve_dave stated, I don't respect you one iota... your opinions are nonsensical and baseless
Nope. You are full of shit, as usual. You DO act like a douche on a regular basis and go out your way to start shit on a regular basis. And you ARE agenda driven. And you hate when you are called on it. Everyone on this forum with a brain knows this. And it's pathetic to see you try to claim otherwise. But it's not like you and reality are on speaking terms. As you were...full of shit.
Translation - talked about a time in boxing that you know nothing about and defies your bullshit stats.
dude, you don't know who Saoul Mamby is and you think anybody here is going to waste time evaluating 1981 with you? You aren't qualified
You're such an idiot...just pig ignorant. This is how is works with you. I say Hopkins beats Monzon, you say Monzon beats Hopkins. I say, "fair enough I agree to disagree". You say "You're just shilling for your favourite and you have an agenda to make Roy Jones look better". It's impossible to have a mature conversation with you and the sad thing is you're much older than anyone here, so one would expect maturity from you. Essentially you're an old miserable fuck.
Welcome to the Land of Make Believe...where you are objective, reasonable, non-confrontational, and your every post doesn't drip with agenda...and there are also unicorns and elves. Poor, poor angry Mayweather groupie...