After Watching The Replay, Floyd Still Won "However..."

Round 9 was Floyd's round. Rounds 8, 3 and 4 could've gone either way...but not 9-12.

 

2,3,4,5,6,7,12

 

Bro , the clip is towards the bottom of the page - go take another look ...

That round sucked for BOTH fighters ....
I think you just automatically gave that round to Floyd because he is your favorite fighter.
I think you are giving Floyd rounds based on your like for him ...
Objectively watching the round , there is no way you can just "give" that round to Floyd ...

 

My Scorecard:

1. Floyd (CLEAR)
2. Oscar (CLEAR)
3. Floyd (CLOSE)
4. Oscar (CLOSE)
5. Floyd (CLEAR)
6. Oscar (CLOSE)
7. Oscar (CLEAR)
8. Floyd (CLOSE)
9. Floyd (CLEAR)
10.FLOYD (WIDE)
11. FLOYD (WIDE)
12. Floyd (CLOSE)

8-4 for Floyd.

 

<!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->
Key punches/moments in round 9:

2:30- De La Hoya lands a jab.
2:15- Mayweather lands a jab to the body (borderline low, but Oscar's protector is high) and a looping right hand to De La Hoya's ear over a low left hand.
2:00- De La Hoya throws a double jab, to the body and head. Body jab appears to miss but jab to the head lands.
1:52- Mayweather misses a left uppercut and misses straight right, follow up straight right to the head lands, left hook to the head lands, right hook misses, left to the body appears blocked and straight right hand misses.
1:37- De La Hoya lands jab to the head.
1:18- De La Hoya lands jab to the head
1:10- De La Hoya gets Mayweather to the ropes and the crowd goes nuts as Oscar flurries, but none of the flurry lands.
0:53- Mayweather lands a grazing looping right hand around De La Hoya's guard
0:49- Mayweather lands jab to body and a right to the body (glove hits beltline and skin)
0:45- Mayweather lands right hand to the side of De La Hoya's head
0:25- Mayweather darts in with a straight right and lands a grazing shot to De La Hoya's head.


De La Hoya's jabs aren't enough to take the round. Making it 10-10 is rather generous to De La Hoya.

Mayweather's round.

 

2,3,4,5,6,7,12
Mayweather never won a round by a wide margin

 

DLH proved in this fight prime for prime he shit's all over Mayweather.

 

I had Oscar winning the 12th.

Oscar clearly won the 6th and Floyd won the 10th but it was close.

 

De La Hoya showed that in his prime he had trouble with very quick, smaller guys while not fighting the smartest of fights and showed that past his prime he still has trouble with very quick, smaller guys while he doesn't fight the smartest of fights.

 

DLH won this fight while being past his prime he would have won by a bigger margin in his prime. DLH had NO trouble with Mayweather in this fight so your point is moot.

 

:: :laughing:

You're obviously in the minority in thinking De La Hoya won, but let's go with your scorecard.

Since when is winning 115-113 having "no trouble"??

Other than a 6-5-1 card, you can't win a decision any closer than that.

 

No sure why you are laughing :dunno:

I'd have to agree with him .... Mayweather posed no threat to DLH threw the whole fight ...

At no point of this fight was I ever nervous about DLH like I was in some of his past fights ....

 

The fight flat out sucked. The right guy won and he did so in an unimpressive fashion. Floyd needs to move down in weight or risk being a new Cory Stinks aka a stinking shitfaced stinkbag.

 

Because the thought of De La Hoya having "no trouble" is hilarious.

If you can hardly land anything, you're having trouble. He was even less accurate than Mayweather, who as you have said, hit air and glove plenty of times.

 

When in the fight did Mayweather have DLH in TROUBLE? NONE=No trouble.
95% of Mayweathers punches were caught by DLH's GLOVES. The only rounds Mayweather won were the one's DLH didn't throw alot of punches.

 

There's a difference between having a fighter "in trouble" (hurt, badly stunned), then having "trouble with a fighter" (not being able to land your punches with any consistency, making things uncomfortable, getting caught with a certain punch over and over, the fight being very close, etc...)

Floyd and Oscar had trouble with each other since neither guy could really sustain a consistent attack, or land with solid accuracy. Their defenses posed problems for each other.

 

You scored round FIVE for Oscar?

That's ridiculous! Clear floyd round.

Round 3 and 12 were closer...but even those leaned more towards Floyd than Oscar...especially the 12th. You obviously fell for Oscar's last 5 seconds of mayhem and forgot the for the majority of the round Floyd was potshotting him...

 

Sly,

You've gotten potshotted for your commentary on the fight for over a week now.

You should be ready to toss in the towel!

 

The real shame is that Floyd couldn't even beat an aging De La Hoya as easily or convincingly as Mosley beat a prime Oscar..

Shane > Floyd


Does anyone doubt that Shane would rip Floyd a new ass hole at 147 pounds?

 

Not necessarily. Different styles, different temperment, etc..

But I agree that Mosley's performance in 2000 was definitely more impressive than Mayweather's last week.

 

Shane's 2003 victory was almost more impressive than Mayweather's last week.

::

 

He loses points for his "Beauty Pageant Contestant who just won the contest" reaction to the decision. ::

 

Using the above logic....(and this is for ANYONE who agrees with this post):


The real shame is that Shane couldn't even beat Vernon Forrest as easily or convincingly as Mayorga beat an unbeaten Vernon..

Mayorga > Shane


Does anyone doubt that Ricardo would rip Shane a new ass hole at 147 pounds

 

i liked the fact that ODH said in the HBO interview, "even though I lost the fight I don't feel like a loser." he's right. he has nothing to be ashamed of except for the fact that he got tired.

 

That would be true if I were selling my stance as logic. But I am talking about this SPECIFIC trio of fighters..

This is taking into consideration their abilities, styles, age, etc...

And again, we are talking about the perceived #1 P4P guy in Mayweather, so it is interesting that he wasn't even close to having the most convincing win against Oscar...

 

Yes, he does. He could have won that fight. Every time he jabbed Floyd did nothing, He didn't pull counter, he just ate jabs. This was the most disgraceful performance of Oscar's entire career. Floyd's worst was going life and death with a skilless bum like Castillo.

 

Do you think Floyd is the best P4P fighter in the world? If not, where do you rank him?

 

Has De La Hoya ever said why he dispensed with the jab?

He was doing well with it and snapping Mayweather's head back, or pushing him back with jabs to the chest. I saw a grand total of ONE successful pull-counter by Mayweather, early in round 3, and Oscar walked right through it and continued to throw to the body.

I know you generally have to have timely use of it to avoid counters, but Mayweather wasn't countering it.

I guess you can add this to the fights where De La Hoya made tactical blunders that cost him, along with Trinidad and the first Mosley fight.

 

My point is that you cannot use that argument...PERIOD. If it doesn't work for all "trios"...then you can't ASSume it'll work for a "specific" trio either. :nono:

 

I don't believe in P4P. It is nonsense and I am too intelligent to participate in such utter rot. Floyd is a great fighter although his resume is not that of an all time great yet. Would he beat Wlad K, no. I think it is pretty amazing that a smallish lightweight has moved up so far and beaten good fighters, although the best fighter he fought, DLH is far past his prime.