Alex Arthur awarded WBO title

The guy is well promoted. He got his ass kicked in his own town by an Irish itinerant brawler called Mick Armstrong aka Mick Gomez. Anybody who can suffer that kind of setback and still end up a world champ without even fighting for the title must have some Grade A Management.

 

In fairness, he fought Gogaladze.....er..who just got taken out in 1 last week

At least Setanta subscribers know what they will be watching over the next few years, he'll be the new scott harrison

 

It's not so much that Alex has been awarded the bauble- hell, there are always plenty of less than stellar WC's around nowadays. As I said earlier, he's a durable, likable and hard working type. More power to him, I suppose...

It's the fact that now, after having narrowly escaped a buggering at the hands of a far superior fighter, he's coming out with all the usual Werren garbage about being the best there is/taking on all comers/lengthy reign as champ/woulda beaten that guy anyway etc when anyone who has ever so much as blinked towards a boxing fight knows that:

a. He is not the best Super Featherweight in the world. Not even close.
b. He will not be taking on 'all comers', unless these all comers' are past it or never weres who are willing to traipse to Scotland for a small wedge of cash and to lose a UD.
c. He will quite probably have a lengthy reign, unless the steady stream of patsies dries up or the big cash out fight comes along which is too rich to resist (ala Enzo Mac)
d. He would not have beaten Guzman if he wore anvils on his hands rather than gloves.

Werren is responsible for this sort of garbage- it is predictable and pitiful but what makes it worse is that it will be swallowed, hook line and sinker, by a whole raft of people who will blight my drinking time with nonsense about how 'this new Scottish guy is mustard'...

Werren :flip:

MTF

 

You are right, to a point, but having piddling fighters fighting over piddling baubles is one thing: telling the world that your piddling fighter is the greatest in the world is quite another.

And let's not pretend Werren is doing ANYTHING for the betterment of boxing. Everything Werren does is for the betterment of one F. Werren.

If he really cared about 'bringing boxing to the mainstream fan', how come he's now shifting Amir Khan from ITV (Millions of viewers) to Setanta (thousands of viewers)? The answer, of course, is $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I agree with whoever said that I'd probably take Werren as a promoter if I was a B-Level fighter looking to make more than that of myself in terms of titles/money, but I'm not. I'm a boxing fan, and I want to see titlists fighting meaningful, interesting matchups against deserving opponents. It took Werren YEARS to allow even Joe Calzaghe the opportunity to do this, and what a waste that has turned out to be. Imagine how much better Joe's resume would have been if he'd been fighting elite guys in and around 2003?

And I don't hate Enzo. Never have and never will. I rated him before he fought Haye and I still think he beats any CW except maybe Cunningham. It's just that he is the architypal Werren fighter- building a name and a profile fighting has beens and no-ones on ITV before being beaten badly in possibly his first meaningful fight.

That's EXACTLY Werren's Modus Operandi, and it means that lesser fighters are overhyped whilst quality fighters are overprotected. In both cases, Werren makes MILLIONS whilst fight fans are short changed.

What's to like?

MTF :dunno:

 

Which one? I've seen a lot of Mitchell's... ::

 

That's the one I thought you meant. ::

Anyway, I've seen him a few times and I saw the Johannson fight. That was a beauty- I thought Mitchell was done for around Round 6. :clap:

I'd give him every chance of beating Alex. He's as durable as hell, and he can crack a fair bit for a little fella.

 

I thought he was a Welterweight, though, or am I thinking about someone else? I get confused sometimes...::

 

Cracking fucking fite mate.....:clap::clap:

 

I thought he was going OUT in round 6!!! Seemed to just take a breath and steady himself. I think in 2, 3 fights he can beat Arthur. Hell.....Johannson wiped the floor with Gomez {albeit shot Gomez} and Mitchell whupped him..albeit in a close run thing until Mitchell got the better of him. Of course, its a big makeable fight......Fat Frank will make it happen, then Arthur can retire to the Glens with his "My WBO 130lb strap Was Better Than Scotts" routine.:laughing:

PS...got the auld dish up today. Finally managed to align the fucker- albeit barely. The LNB is shagged I think, only 2 or 3 clicks on the "quality" meter.

That said, I got my setanta sorted, although Setanta 2 isn't coming thru....have me a nice little list of channels for the week. Most importantly 448...LFC TV. PS what you make of Degen. ?

PS.....you know anyone selling a SKY+ box el cheapo? Ta.

 

Ryan Rhodes can win a world title.




































ld::laughing:

 

Kevin Mitchell is not future champ material, and i'd quite confidently pick Arthur to beat him.

He showed heart and strength against Johannson to pull out the win when it looked like it was slippin away.... but Johannson is only somewhere between british and european level, he gets exposed when he takes the next step up

 

Uhhhhhhhhhh.....................way to not read the thread. It says...Alex Arthur AWARDED.... WBO Title. That means, for all we know, Arthur is HIMSELF only somewhere between the Euro and World level. Not exactly a massive disparity!!! Arthur has NOT proven himself at World level and has LOST to Michael Gomez.

Furthermore, that was Mitchells first big step up, he gets hit a lot but he really showed some maturity on such a huge stage to take the belt. He will only get better now.:nono:

 

His bodyshots broke down Johannson.....he seemed economical in the attack but a little porous in defense.

Also...how the fuck do I fine tune a dish? Loads of signal strength but no quality.:doh:

Cheers.

 

The thing is, I'm not entirely sure Arthur is any better than European level either. :dunno:

Plus, I think Johannson is a little bit better than you give him credit for. Not world class, certainly, but he's more than a domestic slugger. That was a good win for Mitchell- he showed bagfuls of courage to turn round a fight in which he looked to likely to be stopped midway through.

He's gutsy, durable (albeit very hittable) and has a decent whack- Arthur would be no more than a slender favourite in my eyes if the fight was tomorrow.

MTF

 

Thats just it...and we were deprived the answer to the question by the fact that the Guzman fight "fell" through.

Arthur has the belt.....but there was no proving he was World Class.

 

Is this the same Arthur that got his face smashed in by born-in-a-car hero Michael Gomez?

I would say it's pretty fucking certain that he is not better than Euro level, no maybe about it ::

 

Yup, thats him, but beware, Gomez on his night could fight. He just preferred drinking.

 

well i did read the thread, perhaps i should have quoted this initially:

TKO:
"I think that guy is a future champ, he has good boxing skills and can take a punch he was tagged a few times in that fight and came out like a bull in R6 or7?

Do you think he would beat Arthur"


I'm not saying Mitchell is a bad fighter, but i can't see him being all that competitive at world class. He's always been open, and had so many pushovers that i think his defence habits are there to stay.



On Johannson. I like him a lot, very exciting, and gives honest and humble interviews. But his defeats have shown that he's not quite there when at high european class, but the way he dealt with Corcaron, Fehitola (bad spelling for both probably) etc.. show that he is more than simply domestic level

 

I don't disagree. I actually thought he was always pretty underrated, and wondered why he didn't have a better career than he did.

On a good night he had a real nice crouching/jumping left hook, fairly quick hands and good power.

Was that his problem? Drinking? Lifestyle?

 

The guy is a Pikie. Plain and simple.

Drinking, screwing, fighting on the streets, no discipline, zero fucking stability....you name it.

 

Gamboa should fight Arthur. Easy win for him.