All aboard the Cloud!

I had Woods winning 4, maybe 5 being generous, rounds in fight 1, 2 rounds in fight 2, and fight 3 I had a draw...the difference was that in fight 1 and 3 Johnson noticeably faded in the second half of the fight whereas he was comfortable throughout in fight 2

 

Johnson probably won the first two.

He definitely did not win the third. If I recall, he let it all ,hang out in the 7th and tried to end it there, but that was his lot, Woods dominated him down the stretch.

 

They were both poor fighters that benefited from Roy's decline, thankfully Chad is a worthy talent that has come along and we can forget all about the bad era of Light-heavies,.. Woods, Johnson and Tarver... an utterly shuddering trio. By the way your passivity, is allowing me to cockily strut around fightbeat taking pot-shots at everybody, you used to have the responsibility of DRAINING those tendencies,... but now the communism suffers due to,..regretfully, too many rightisms of my despatchel.

 

FUCK OFF.

This is exactly the result 80% of people expected, Cloud to win a tough fight. And not 1 in 5 people would have expected him to beat Dawson going into this, who is a legit p4per. This is a good win. He's won by a wider margin than Dawson did in either fight, in fact. What has been 'exposed', exactly, here? It's the best win of his career.

Fucking nonsense. Total fucking nonsense. But then what do we expect, but verbal diarrhea from you.....

 

Well, you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt that he will improve, and take this as experience, he is already amongst the top Lightheavyweights, it's not like he isn't a good fighter, but on the grounds of a 'bandwagon'... I thought the definition meant people were riding on him to the position of clear and undisputeable supremecy over all others.

 

Haven't seen the fight yet either, but from what I've been reading on a couple of fight sites, the rds that Alexander won he boxed, the rds he lost he would just stand and fight with Kotelnik like he was trying to please the crowd or something. Does any of that hold water? I also find it funny that none of those sites are claiming Alex lost and boxingtalk for one actually claim they had the same scorecard as the judges.

 

Not in my case. I said Dawson would probably beat him from day one. And I picked this as a very hard fight for him. I just prefer watching Cloud. Anything short of p4p supremacy is being 'exposed' these days, it's completely absurd.

 

Did you lose a sig and avatar bet?.. I thought you were a 'porridge wog', and not a preisty O'brach ... ::

 

Kau needs meds.

 

Im Scottish of Irish lineage, mate, like the glorious club in my sig & avatar.

 

The LightHeavyweight division right now is as weak as it has ever been. Period.

Guys like Cloud and Dawson are solid talents but there is nothing stand-out about them. Neither of them could hack a move to Heavyweight, and it is hard to see either of them beating even a John Ruiz type of fighter.

When you think back to 2000, you had prime Roy Jones, Woods, Michelczewski, JL Gonzalez, Harmon, Tarver, Harding etc, with other solid if unremarkable fighters like Richard Hall, KO Letterlough, etc.

Nobody figured that era was better than that of the late 70's/early 80's and it had it's issues but todays division is just bereft of big names, big fights...fuck it..does it even have a standout puncher???

Three of the divisions current top 10 are relics of yester-year, namely Braehmer, Johnson and Hopkins.

Jean Pascal has already been beaten by a 168lb guy, in Froch.

 

Cloud isn't even close to Dawson. Dawson beats him easy.

 

artie:

 

maybe so, but me thinks you just hold a vendetta against cloud since he brutally destroyed one of your mexican love interests.

 

give me dawson to whip all of those fellas listed from back in 2000, aside from Jones jr and possibly the polish quitter. cloud certainly would have a great chance to defeat them all aside from Jones Jr as well.

 

I love Cloud Neil.... but I wouldnt take him over a prime DM. Johnson's jab was busting Cloud in the face and swelling him. DM woulda done alot worse to him. And I never liked DM.

And unfortunetely..... I'd take a younger Tarver to do a number on Cloud as well.

 

i glanced over tarvers name. didnt notice him to be honest. he could certainly have beat dawson or cloud. as for the polish quitter, by the start of this millennium he was going life and death with richard hall, needing help from crooked german officials. cloud would have a great chance to whip that chap

 

Well true that is a good point.

I think the 90's DM that beat Hill would eat Cloud up though.

 

Dawson in against a 2000 version of Eric Harding would have been an interesting match-up...better than their actual fight six years after that.

 

Y'all Musta 4Got

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http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1876

John Chavez:

Chavez notes the attendance for Alexander-Kotelnik was around 9,000...I believe the attendance for Bradley-Abregu was around 2,000.

 

Lot of Ukrainians in the USA.

 

bradleys fight had a shit undercard. i tuned in to see cloud-johnson not alexander.

no doubt that alexander is more of a gate attraction, but then again, he has a real promoter.

 

That would explain it...and why Vitali-Arreola did such good numbers.

 

Steve Kim:

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/main-lead/shaw-says-he-has-a-lost-perro