Andre Berto tests positive

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  1. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Unjuiced fighters tend to hit a stamina wall with that kind of effort.
     
  2. Irish

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    juiced fighters don't usually have the first round Peterson had.
     
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  3. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think its pretty obvious, honestly. The increased recuperative abilities, the large back with the zits...

    Its just that he has the right people around him providing him with the right kind of stuff that can beat the testing.

    Ortiz is in the same boat.
     
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    Um, no. It's not like he looked like Duran or Pacquiao or Armstrong in there, brimming with energy and beating his opponent to a pulp with a relentless, high energy attack. He looked like a makeshift pressure fighter.

    Energy and stamina wise it's nothing you don't see from Mexican pressure fighters all the time, pretty average performance really, Peterson is not even particularly good at pressure fighting or infighting, he just took advantage of Khan's weakness.
     
  5. Irish

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    Pretty much. Steroids are what you take when you want to progress from the gritty, gutsy guy to the more explosive, impressive guy. In otherwords, steroids are what you take when you want to go from being a guy who drew with Peterson and was beaten down by Maidana to being a guy beat Berto and got a great big FWA for himself.

    The "I took it before" schtick is what I am getting at. What is the use in Peterson admitting that? Who put him up to that? Who benefits most from it?

    GBP, because now the result is overturned, Khans gloss is restored, Peterson is out of their hair, onwards and upwards.

    My belief is simple: Oscar and Schaefer know who is taking what and when. They let things slide if it suits them. If it doesn't, they start making noise. I don't have any proof and I can't give you details because I don't have any. Its just a general suspicion. I think Schaefer and Oscar are bent, entirely bereft of morals. I think they are up to their eye teeth in filth, have contacts everywhere and have a lot of people on their payroll.

    Khan himself is a bit part player, he's only a boxer, he's not involved to any extent, nor are his father or his manager who merely tend to his financial needs. Oscar and Schaefer are the ones to watch. Roach himself, like Khan, is just a small player. He knows all the big players, he knows the score, but he's just a scrub, he's still only a former fighter, a mere soldier, many tiers removed from the Capos and Bosses of the Oscar faction.
     
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    If Khan is juicing, he's doing it very well. Last I heard he was taking Floyd-spec Olympic testing.

    MTF :dunno:
     
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    There isn't a single test you can't beat. Knowing you have to beat it, in the first place, is half the game.
     
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    Roach keeps Alex Ariza on retainer...
     
  9. Irish

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    Another elephant in the room.
     
  10. Irish

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    go ahead and skip to 1:46
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Whatever he took, Mexicans aren't supposed to look like that. :nono:
     
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    Khan is NOT juicing, WTF is this shit
     
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    Kellerman :shit:
     
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    ......advice from Roberto Garcia not to eat his guac out of the fridge....

    ..........my shirt off to impress excitable Max Kellerman who went on to become an expert on steroids, around 2007

    ........the first two rounds versus Oscar then got my face beat in by another guy who has become an expert on steroids.

    ............such a fucking beating from Trinidad that my IQ was lowered by 70 points to 20.
     
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    Oscar clearly won the 2nd round against Vargas.
     
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    :lol: vargas
     
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    Vargas won 1, 3 and 5 though. It really was an excellent fight.
     
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    Ok, maybe I'm late to the party and I don't read nearly as much on other sites as I'm used to, but I just ran across this tidbit regarding the Peterson / Khan fight on another site.


    So Petersen DID NOT test over the limit, the fight was scrapped and Khan can wash his hands of Peterson from here on out, and it looks as if GBP knew of this situation already.

    :scratcher:
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Interesting stuff though. Major duck job by Trash Khan it seems :kidcool:
     
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    fuck Khan/GBP
     
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    Pretty much as I said it was the case.
     
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    Seems like if Peterson had kept his stupid mouth shut he could have either appealed to the state commission to get the fight back on or sued for loss of earnings
     
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    Peterson had no choice but to speak out and shit on his career best win. :nono:
     
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    Schaefer is slimy slime. Sticky, drippy, slurpy, eeewwwwy.
     
  29. mikE

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    You aren't allowed to take illegal PEDs so long as you come in 'under the limit'. While that's what they are trying to do with the amazingly brazen and pathetic TRT bullshit, it's still cheating unless and until it's not.

    Berto has the most well-known and perhaps most competent PED cheating supplement supplier and he goes off and takes OTHER supplements??? Fuck him.

    Peterson is an admitted cheater. It's not like PEDs have some limited benefits. They can help you in pretty much any way possible. They can make you better in pretty much every tangible measure that matters. I'm sure they also make you better mentally because you think you should be able to recover, hit harder, have better stamina, etc. They are cheating every bit as much as putting hard tape in your gloves a la Margarito is cheating.

    To start throwing out ratios of how much one guy is over the acceptable testosterone level compared to another is interesting for conversation, but I get the impression some people believe it is indicative of someone being more of a cheater than another. That's just simply not true. The ratios go up and down. I assume they go up and down rather quickly, too, or it would be easier to get caught.
     
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    Not for nothin' but I'm owed an apology.
     

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