Andre Berto tests positive

Berto doesn't work with Conte according to what I've been reading.

 

Indeed you were right my Ginger Friend, it was a duck job by those GPB slimeballs, that's how it seems now anyway.

 

So what is with Conte's twitter post claiming Berto took stuff Conte didn't supply?

 

Just watching dwyers latest and he makes some strong points. To summarise - apparently it was nandrolone he was caught with which is a very easily detected steroid. Hardly seems credible that Conte would give him that when he's so expert in dosing, especially when it was Conte who advised Berto to demand WADA, which he knows back to front.

So either Berto is a crayon muncher &ignoring the directions of the very man hes paying for advice or this is another funny test result. Irish's outlandish conspiracy theory is looking better and better.

 

Irish, what's your opinion on the Berto matter?

 

Oscar knows who is taking what, thats my bottom line.

I am putting it simply- to avoid sophisticated and unprovable theories.......

...somehow..... and probably via the simple expedient of paying for information, maybe even blackmail, but more likely simple bribery, he's gotten information on who is doing what. He then sets the tests for them to take, or has them carefully nudged and manoeuvred into taking a particular test, so that they fail or pass the test as he sees fit.

Thats why I placed so much importance on the words that Peterson uttered to the effect that he had always been taking something, or that, more specifically, and more importantly, he had taken something prior to the Khan fight. I think Peterson was expected to give Khan a hard exciting fight- but lose- and then Oscar could say "Wow, what a fight, we are ready for X/Y/Z etc".

But Khan lost the belts via the simple, unexpected route of Peterson being too game and the referee doing too good a job. That really threw a spanner in the works. Peterson then takes this VADA and fails. Neat.

Peterson wanted us to hear that he was basically a sick or tired athlete who had tried to balance the scales. What Oscar wanted us to hear was that the result- and Khans performance in that fight- should be struck from the record and from our memories.

The sheer seamlessness of the entire thing is just too blindingly obvious for my liking.

The Berto thing is simpler. Berto was turned over by a juiced up Ortiz but Berto has since gotten wise and won't be fooled again, as it were. Somehow somebody has gotten something into his supply chain to fuck him up on the VADA. He'd pass WADA, but not the VADA.

Oscar wants Khan vs Peterson and Ortiz vs Berto.......provided Khan and Ortiz win. Then its Khan vs Ortiz for the WBC title at 147. But....if Peterson or Berto win....major problems. So he fucks both of them. Somehow.

I don't know and cannot hope to prove the specifics, but Schaefer is a key player in this. Whats Schaefers background......??? High end scumbaggery in the financial sector, marketing, opinion manipulation.

 

Khan and Berto are the maggot on the hook, they are the lowest tier, the least-informed tranche of this operation, they are just the "talent" as it were. Berto is as likely to do what Conte tells him as not. There's no reason why Berto would voluntarily deviate from what Conte is telling him to do, not for no reason.

The trick here is that, and Dwyer put his finger on it, Oscar and his ilk want people to at least confuse, and at best not even know about, the different tests and their differing thresholds.

 

Its pretty much like you said.

Seems like a conspiracy to me.

 

So Montoya is reporting that Berto's urine sample came back with "ultra trace amounts of Nandrolone in the low parts per trillion range."

He says that's consistent with contamination, not intent.

 

Golden Boy are the scum of the earth. A huge boxing star buys his way into HBO via whoring himself in lucrative fights. Creates his own promoting company and takes over the whole sport teaming up with a corporate asshole that makes Karl Rove look like a saint.

 

Look, this started as early as Oscar vs Hopkins. That fight, and its purported "£nding" were the greatest crock of shit since Nelly the Elephant got the runs.

"Bodyshot........Bodyshot............Bodyshot........Bodyshot"

:shit:

Oscar is scum, but he's dumb barrio scum. Schaefer is the guy to watch.

 

Josesito Lopez


http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...lace-andre-berto-june-23-bout-victor-ortiz-la

 

Did they contact Kell Brook??

 

First fight at 147. :shit:

 

Don't forget buying out Ring Magazine.

 

Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

MTF ::

 

We'll see.

 

Fuck these guys. I used to think G was good for boxing. Boxing promotions run by boxers for boxers............blah, blah, blah.

What a load of fucking horseshit. :shit:

Don King, Bob Arum.............we'll end up missing those crusty assholes, thinking back on them with fond recollections.

G is the new IBC. Richard Shaeffer is the new James D. Norris. Fighters are dangled as bait. They used to throw fights in the 50's............now they throw blood tests.

IBC was controlled by the mob. Mob is irrelevant now. There's a new mob in town..............Wall Street cunts who want to monetize the sport while they're pretending to clean it up, build a brand, turn it into a monopoly, go public with a stock offering, and make enough money for Oscar to buy an Island in the Galapagos, so he can fuck off with all his hookers and ladyboys.

Shaeffer can then strip the company for parts, sell it to Dana White or Vince MacMahan............call it a "stock merger", Zuckerberg another stock offering and fuck off himself into another hobby like race cars or fetish p-orn.

 

Nobleart knows the game & ain't been beat 3 times.

 

Pretty much.

 

What exactly has Oscar done wrong here? He didn't test positive.

 

Some actual details.

 

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This is what happens in ANY SPORT when guys are tested randomly. People will fail a whole lot more. If you don't know when the test is coming, you're going to fail if you're on steroids. I don't know what this shit is about certain guys like Ariza being able to beat the random tests, they can't. The reason people could get away with it was there was never random testing, they could cycle off knowing the time they would have to test clean.

 

Not quite. It seems that Petersen would have passed the WADA tests but not the VADA tests

 

How do you figure?

 

A cunt pretending to be a cunt............is still a cunt. :nono:

 

Different tests test for different things across different thresholds.

The people who are saying "Oh, Floyd clean up boxing" they are full of it- its seems clear now that had the WADA tests been enforced on Petersen that he might have passed.

http://vada-testing.org/

You do the math. Click the above link, and when you have finished laughing uncontrollably, read on some more.

 

STATEMENT OF VADA
10 May 2012 Media/News


VADA's mission is to help protect the health and safety of athletes who are willing to demonstrate their commitment to clean sport. As a voluntary organization, we depend on those who share our vision to help rid boxing and MMA of PEDs. VADA understands and shares the disappointment that is felt by Golden Boy Promotions, Amir Khan, the undercard fighters, HBO, and the thousands of fans who were looking forward to Khan-Peterson II. This unfortunate situation, however, serves to underscore the need for PED education and the high-caliber testing procedures that VADA offers.

VADA has respect for Richard Schaefer, G, and their commitment to clean sport. However, VADA disagrees with Mr. Schaefer's characterizations of the contractual relationship between G and VADA. The facts are as follows.

There was never a final or signed contract between G and VADA. When VADA became involved with the Peterson-Khan fight in March, the individual athletes signed up for the VADA program and executed the proper documentation.

VADA was told that G also wanted a contract so that G would be authorized to receive the testing results, including the preliminary results from an "A" sample analysis. It is important to understand that "A" sample results are only preliminary, do not legally stand up by themselves, and under commonly accepted anti-doping procedures are typically released only to the athlete.

In order for VADA to release the preliminary "A" sample results to a third party such as G, VADA requires an executed authorization allowing us to do so. VADA sent G a draft contract for its signature which would have authorized the preliminary "A" sample results to be released to G. This initial draft (which was never signed) contained a clause pursuant to which G would have represented that it had obtained the necessary authorization from the fighters. G's legal team rejected this clause and instead suggested making the fighters signatories to the contract with their signatures being the necessary authorization. VADA's counsel made it clear to G that, if G wanted to handle it this way, G must take responsibility for obtaining the athlete's signatures. Unfortunately, and to VADA's dismay, G never obtained the signatures. Various versions of a draft contract were sent back and forth between G and VADA. The contract was never finalized. Richard Schaefer may, or may not, have been aware of this situation. The bottom line is that VADA had no contract with G. This is not a mere technicality. It involves issues of medical ethics. VADA needed a signed contract in order to deviate from its Results Management Policy (posted on our website) and release the preliminary and personal medical information to a third party. VADA still has never received a signed contract or signed athlete authorization from G. VADA would have been happy to inform G of the preliminary "A" results. But we needed a signed authorization allowing us to do so, which we never received.

It has also been asked why it took so long to test the "B" sample after the first positive test result. When VADA notified Mr. Peterson of the adverse finding on April 13, Mr. Peterson had one week to challenge the "A" test result and ask for the "B" sample to be tested. During that time, Mr. Peterson also had the opportunity to supplement his earlier written submissions to VADA with regard to drugs and other medications that he had used prior to the testing. Mr. Peterson's representatives waited eight days (until Saturday, April 21) to respond. At that time, they did not communicate any of the "exculpatory" material later offered to the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Instead, they chose to challenge the positive test result, asserted their right to be present when the "B" sample was tested, and asked that the "B" sample be tested on Friday, April 27th. The UCLA laboratory said that Friday was an inappropriate day to begin testing because four consecutive days are needed to complete the test. The sample "B" test began on Monday, April 30th.

VADA has complied in every way with all signed contracts that we had and will continue to do so. VADA welcomes the discussion about the dangers of PEDs to those who use them and to their opponents. We also reiterate our contention that it is imperative for the managers, promoters, and friends of these brave athletes to assist in the education about PEDs. VADA will help in every way we can. Our hope is that there will come a time when every test is negative.

 

Who would Oscar/Shaefer want to know what the premliminary results were??