Andy Ruiz v Anthony Joshua II

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  1. Double L

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    What's a good site for boxing bets these days?
     
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  2. Irish

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    On a good day I could take a shit and drop 3lbs, easy.

    The guy has lost 8lbs off his ankles never mind the rest.

    He's dropped 20lbs at least.
     
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  3. Irish

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    LOL sort of an inverse

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  4. Rainmaker

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    Corrie Sanders would have smoked Wlad in a rematch.
    Joshua doesn't have a bigger brother that can spank Ruiz.
    Must have been awesome for Wlad to have a big brother like Vitaly. Someone beats you up and your big brother comes by to beat the shit out of your opponent.
     
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    Ike looking good
     
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    Both are garbage, it's sad what the hw division has become. But I think Joshua wins the rematch, he's going to play it extremely safe and not get caught while going in for the kill as he did in the 1st fight.
     
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    You're betting the house on Ruiz?
     
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  8. Double L

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    No, joshua.
     
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    Ruiz will win. Joshua will break physically and mentally. Ruiz by ko in 8
     
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  10. Irish

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    People not studying the underlying stuff here.........its in Saudi. Why? So Hearn can fix it.
     
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  11. Double L

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    Yep. One way or the other, it is fixed.
     
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  12. REEDsART

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    Can Hearn Fix Joshua's (Glass) Temples???...





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    The stuff about Joshua's poor chin is too early. There were same kind of talks when Lennox was iced by McCall (got hit by a basic punch, his chin will never get better etc)

    It might be that Joshua falls again, but it isn't given
     
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  14. Irish

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    No but he can do a lot of things to mess with Ruiz or the referee and the next thing you know borderline body shots are "Low", points are coming off, the guys afraid to throw his hands, or he's being admonished, he's kept awake at night before the fight.

    If he could absolutely fix the temples, the fight would be in London or New York.

    But he can't, so he takes it elsewhere and meddles.

    Hearn is not to be trusted.
     
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  15. Irish

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    He can't take shots high on the head.
     
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    Joshua's CHIN Itself Seems Decent Enough....He's Never Been Flat On his Back, Blankly Staring Up into the Lights HURT, from What REED's Seen...

    But he IS Susceptible as Hell to Temple Shots More than Most Fighters Seem to Be...Joshua is Like Miguel Cotto in that Way...





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  17. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Nah. His chin sucks. Ever time he gets hits with a good punch, he staggers or gets drop
     
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    I expect the ref to run and stop it promptly a la canelo-kovalev if Ruiz is dropped or staggered
     
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    Aye. Doesn't mean shit if you have a good chin but your temples can't hold a shot. Just means your opponents aim a little higher up.
     
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    I suspect Ruiz will be up against all the forces that can be mustered against him, but his chin is rock solid. I also suspect that Joshua will fight long and scared, running away jabbing madly and hugging like a drunken octopus when Ruiz gets in range.

    For that reason I'm putting down on Joshua by decision at around +250.
     
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    Yeah if Joshua wins it'll probably be a boring and possibly dodgy decision. It wasn't like he was well in control in the first two rounds or anything, just a poor attempt at trying to keep it long.
     
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    Joshua's OVERALL Punch Resistance is Certainly Sub Par, But disagREED on His CHIN Literally Sucking...It Ain't GREAT, Good or Even Pretty Good, Necessarily, But Joshua is CONSIERABLY More Vulnerable to Temple Shots than Chin Checks...

    2 Men Have Dropped Him (Wlad, Ruiz) and 3 Have Visibly Hurt Him from What REED's Seen (Wlad, Ruiz, Whyte)...REED's Seen Footage of Whyte Dropping Joshua as an Ammy Also...The Sparring Stories are Obviously Out There, But Credence Can't Be Lent to Off Record Accounts...

    The Right Hand Wlad Landed on Joshua's Chin Would've Dropped Just About Any Current Heavyweight...Povetkin Landed Some Good Shots Right on the Button Also, But Joshua Took Them...

    His Kryptonite is Temple Shots/High Head Shots for Sure Though...







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    Makes You Wonder if There's a Saudi Boxing Commission and if Not, Who's Governing the Fight in a Commission-Like Capacity???...

    The LESSER Known the Refs/Judges Are to Boxing Fans, the HIGHER Probability for Sheer Corruption...






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    Which is What Andy Ruiz Does Regularly, Being the Shorter Man More Times Than Not...

    The NATURAL Trajectory of his Punches Aims High to Joshua's Head...It's Not Even Something he Has to TRY or Put THOUGHT Into...






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  25. Jesus of montreal

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    He was wobbled pretty badly by povetkin. And i dont think making a difference between chin and temple resistance brings us anywhere
     
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    It's gross that this fight is happening in Saudi Arabia ... it's like Zaire ... money and PR for dehumanizing dictators
     
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