Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury. Who wins and why?

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Who wins?

  1. AJ

    3.2%
  2. Fury

    96.8%
  1. Irish

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    Uppercuts via bodyswerve on the inside.
     
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    Well the word is Eddie Hearn is already eyeing this fight after Wilder exercises his rematch clause and Fury beats him again (thrice unofficially).

    Personally I can’t see Fury beating AJ at all because team AJ is likely already coming up with a plan A, B & C for Tyson Fury. Not to beat him but to duck the fight without looking like they’re ducking the fight.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    AJ can’t duck Fury forever, especially after the whole Wilder debacle.

    He has little choice but to pursue a Fury fight.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Yeah there's far too much demand for it not to happen, especially over here. Biggest all-British fight in boxing history by a million light-years.
     
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    Looking at the votes, it looks like Fury is the clear favourite.
     
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    Unprecedented in fightbeat history that a guy has a 20-0 vote in his favour.

    Joshua is not Wilder, ffs. He has his weaknesses but he also has a few things Wilder doesn't have.

    He may not also be facing the same version of Fury.

    Let's even see if Fury can stay in shape this next few months.
     
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    Joshua took a worse battering from a guy that would weigh 175 if he was in shape than Wilder took from Fury

    He’s garbage
     
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    Irish, you know bookies better than me, what odds have they put up for the fight?
     
  9. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Joshua can't take a punch....at all.
     
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    Fury has been downed by clearly worse fighters, though.

    Chin isn't nearly as important as the ability to not get hit. That's Fury's big advantage, not the chin per se
     
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    Fury is the favourite at 1/2 currently. Joshua 6/4.
     
  12. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Fury can recover from flush shots just fine and has great defence/head-movement.

    Joshua has neither of these attributes.
     
  13. Irish

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    But that's not true.
     
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    Wlad hit Joshua with a better right hand than Cunningham did Fury.

    We know this cos Wlad has a better right hand than Cunningham.

    Yet Fury looked like a guy who had just been shot and also realized he had forgotten to put the cat out.
     
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    Yeah but Foightbeat has Fury, 20-0.

    So the bookies need to re-evaluate themselves.

    I am pretty sure that Anthony made more money last year than Denise Coates lol

    1/2 vs 6/4 is the next-door-neighbour of "Pick em".
     
  16. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Stop with the Cunningham bullshit. 7 years ago!

    Fury got smashed in Rd12 by (statistically, lol) the biggest puncher in boxing history and got up and bossed the round like Wilder had stolen something from him.

    Each time Joshua gets wobbled or up off the canvas he's like a teenager who's just necked their first bottle of Absinthe.
     
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    Surprisingly close odds, don't you think? Obviously that will change in the run up, but I wonder what the most profitable betting line to go for in that one.
     
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    I've always thought the Cunningham knockdown occured precisely because Cunningham was so short and the shot came from underneath Fury's line of sight.
     
  19. Irish

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    I can't say. I am livid cos after Leicester had a goal ruled out tonight I was going to put money on Norwich.

    Not to worry........for me.......I would back the upset with £ on Joshua by KO between 1-7 and back the "obvious" with £ on Fury by decision.
     
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    I think that there's no way Fury will tire in the later rounds enough for Joshua to go taking him out then. It's got to be Joshua getting in early with an uppercut. Fury will move his hands and seek to wear the other guy down.
     
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    I always thought it happened because Fury acted the cunt and Cunningham hit him really really hard on the chin.
     
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    Always very happy Fury got rid of that fat fuck Hennessy. Never liked him. Too fat.

     
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    Fury did this in the Cunningham and both Wilder fights...........he "slips" a jab by turning his head away from the jab rather than moving his head to one side. It may not work vs Joshua.
     
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    lol @ Irish
    "Joshua might prove trickier because he beat Wladimir Fagtschko"

    :rolleye:
     
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    No. He just has one or two things that Wilder doesn't, and Fury, like Yellowstone National Park, is well overdue an eruption.
     
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    We all know your agenda, Bobby Sands. :Hap1:
     
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    Cunningham is 6'3
     
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    AJ is a better boxer than Wilder but still not in Fury’s league. Wilder is an athlete who refuses to learn the fundamentals of boxing. AJ looks like he learned boxing fundamentals from a YouTube video and just looks amateurish but at least he tries unlike Wilder. I even heard that Wilder doesn’t train hard when it comes to getting his cardio up.

    What do you guys think AJ’s game plan should be if he wants to beat Fury?
     
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    There's some truth to this.

    Still, Fury is incredibly comfortable, nimble and durable for a huge git, so makes it hard for a prettyboy aflete like Joshua to dent him.
     
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    Fury's been at this shit since the age of 3. He's basically got an education in terms of reading and writing fitted in around fighting, watching fights, hearing about fights, getting ready for fights, on his way to fights, on his way back from fights, fighting over fights etc.

    That's where the naturalness of the man comes into it.

    But mountains are naturally high and seas are naturally deep.............despite this, we can train people to conquer both.

    I honestly thing that McCracken is a good enough coach to find at least one angle of attack and that Joshua is a good enough boxer to implement it.

    I still reckon it's 75% Furys fight to lose....but there's an opening there. Like I say, big old bodyswerve uppercut on the inside, off an exchange.

    And yet, BY RIGHTS, Fury should simply wear this guy down.

    Why is John Fury going on TV roaring insults and telling Hearn not to make the fight? Unusual behaviour.
     

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