Anyone watching the Paul Williams fight tonight?

Williams made it CLEAR that he'll B RETURNING to 147 N November...

REED would Only Hope that the MargariTO Apologists would DEMAND a RE w/Williams Sometime N 2009...Again, REED Only Said MargariTO should Fight SOMEBODY B 4 2008 is Over, even a Tune-Up if Necessary...

But if Williams is Still RELEVANT N 2009 (& There's NO Reason to Think he WON'T B) & MargariTO Refuses to Fight him (For WHATEVER Reason), the SAME Supporters that CAMPAIGNED for MargariTO Over the Years Need to Show Some OBJECTIVITY & Call a Spade a Spade...


REED:kidcool:

 

As for Last Nights Card, Williams Looked AWESOME...

Sure, the Opponent was Limited, but Compare Williams' Performance to How Kolle Looked vs. Andre Ward...

Williams is Obviously SITTING on his Punches More, but that's Only NATURAL...Dude had Very Little, if Any Ammy Experience, so his Actual PRO Bouts were Used for Seasoning...& Williams is Now Looking like an EXPERIENCED, CONFIDENT Fighter w/a CLEAR Understanding of his Assets & How to EXPLOIT them...

As Someone Noted, even @ 160 Williams STILL Looks like he Could EFFECTIVELY Put on Weight...

That Double Right Hook (Body then Head), Overhand Left Combo was BEAUTIFUL...Even a YEAR Ago, he WOULDN'T have Landed a Combo THAT Pretty....


REED:hammert:

 

So Williams looked better than some novice scrub, against the same Midwestern can, a couple of years later? WOWWEE!! artie:






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It's weird the way Tall Paul is suddenly sitting on his punches MUCH more. Even in the Marge fight and first Quintana fight, he didn't really look like a hard puncher. More a volume based arm puncher.

I know the opponent was a bum, but you could still tell the punches were hard, far harder than just a few fights ago.

By the way, Marge did duck Cotto to face Paul, that's just a fact :mj:

Obviously he shouldn't have done, because he would have beaten Cotto.

Oh yes, and I think on Paul's recent form, you'd have to pick him to obliterate Quintana again if they did have a rubber match.

Do you think Paul would give Pavlik a decent fight, or get destroyed? He is probably a natural 160 pounder really, he was a fucking freak at 147, kind of like Caballero at 122. He would do better than Locket ::

 

Oh, obviously thats all that needs to be said then. Move onto another fight.

Sounds just like the Mayweather/Jones Jr defence, to me.

 

Yeah, THE FACT that Williams MOVED UP from 2 LOWER Weight Classes Doesn't Factor N 2 it...


REED:boohoo:

 

Kolle is complete and utter rubbish and the only time you've seen him fight, he went a few rounds with a rubbish, NOVICE middleweight. Thats hardly grounds for anything.

 

:boohoo:

Andre Ward had what, OVER 300 ammy Fights???...Fought EXTENSIVELY on an INTERNATIONAL Level & Won a GOLDfuckingMEDAL @ 178lbs...

But Yeah, Despite All of that, it's Fitting to Refer to him as a "Novice" Middleweight:boohoo:...

Obviously, Someone PISSED N your Porridge...


REED:hammert:

 

So now you're referencing ammy fights? Right, ok. You do that. I forgot, after that many fights, Ward should have been competing against Pavlik, Taylor and Hopkins, not Kolle.

 

As BRIEF as the Fight was, Kolle DID LAND a Couple Decent Shots...It Appears to REED that Williams is CONTENT w/Allowing his OFFENSE to B his Defense, Even @ a Higher Weight...

But Against Pavlik, that's Suicide...

It'd B Interesting while it Lasted & Like U Said, Williams Would Put Forth a MUCH Better Effort than Locket Did, but REED will Still HEAVILY Favor Pavlik...



REED:hammert:

 

So Now YOU'RE Gonna Pretend that a BOATLOAD of International AND OLYMPIC Fights DON'T Mean Shit???...

Take your BITTER, "Look @ Me, I'm UNimpressed" Ass Elsewhere, Dude...

Moving Up TWOfucking Weight Classes, it was a GOOD Performance & it's Only NATURAL to Compare it to how Ward Fared...

& if TAMpon WASN'T On her PERIOD, She'd Recognize that...


REED:boohoo:

 

:bears::bears:

 

i like williams and think that he's a terrific fighter, but it's clear that Reed's disdain for margarito's still there.

jump on his p-will's dick all you want, it doesn't make a difference that you were completely wrong about margarito.

 

Come on. I vehemently picked Quintana in the rematch, and he convincingly outboxed paul for 12 rounds really, but when Paul sat down on his shots and tried to take Quintana out, he just blew him away.

It's hard not to see that happening again. Or rather, it's much easier to imagine that happening again, rather than Paul being outboxed over the distance again.

 

You don't think there's just a little bit of a chance that maaaaaybe Williams just caught Quintana cold and knocked him out? You think he didn't land a bunch of hard shots in the first fight and the only difference was "Williams sat down"? Please. It was an early KO. Shit like that happens in boxing. Its why we watch.

Quintana beat Williams ass BAD over the full distance. There's no question makrs about what may or may not have happened that night. You can't say the same thing about a fight that doesn't even go 180 seconds.

 

Wiliams simply didn´t take Quintana seriously. That stupid mohawk said it all. Although Williams seems to have a bit of trouble with slick movers.

 

man you put a lot of energy into not only discrediting margarito, but it must also be exhausting to ignore the facts as you've chosen to do. you just hate margarito because deep down u know yer boy pbf is terrified of him.

 

Williams vs Quintana I looked alot like Williams vs Mitchell....only Carlos wasn't a shot, blown up lightweight.

 

:bears:

REED hates the guy. Any idea why?

 

i agree p. williams had been focused on volume and letting his arms do the work; more recently, as many have said, he's sitting down on his punches.

 

I actually agree with Tam Tam on this one. I think Williams caught Quintana cold and the KO was more a fluke than anything. I'm not saying I want to see a 3rd fight, but I didn't use to think Williams was anything special as puncher as I saw him hit both Mitchell and Quintana with everything but the kitchen sink and he didn't seem too powerful.

However maybe he has been working on his power because this latest KO does make it 2 in a row.

Actually now would be a good time for Margarito to fight Williams. Williams probably thinks he's a KO artist now and probably wouldn't look to outpoint and clinch so much like he did the first fight but rather brawl with Margarito.

 

I'll never call a KO like that as a "fluke"...cos its obvious that William meant to hurt Quintana. But I do think he just caught him cold and that was that. It happens all the time and can happen to anyone. Being beaten in decisive fashion over the 12 rounds indicates more to me, than a quick KO ever could. Thats my ultimate point.

 

Sure it's possible that Paul caught Quintana cold, but it's also possible that he was punching significantly harder than in the first fight.

You could simply SEE the difference in his punches.

Before, he didn't even look like he was trying to punch hard. He was all about volume, and his punches were basically arm punches. His high KO ratio is attributed to the sheer amount of punches he throws and lands. And his level of opposition.

For the first time, in the Quintana rematch, his punches really had some weight behind them, and he looked like he was trying to punch through the target.

He must have just decided on a change of style, and worked on proper powerpunching.

The difference with someone like Juan Diaz, is you can see is trying to put everything behind his punches, but the power is not there. The former Paul looks like he is not even trying to punch hard.

 

williams looked like he was trying to sit down on his shots vs that midget pakau he fought on the mayweather baldomir card. he just aint a great puncher regardless of what happened in these past two fights.

 

Whatever, Joony:boohoo:

B 4 the Fight YOU'RE the Guy that Said, "I Don't even Really Care who Wins btwn Cotto & Margarito", then Posted "Yeah REED, Fuck You, Take That!!", the Instant MargariTO Won...

Unlike YOU, REED is ALWAYS FORTHRIGHT & GENUINE about his Opinions...

& Sorry, REED WASN'T "Completely Wrong" about MargariTO...The 1st Half of the Fight Went EXACTLY like Most MargariTO Critics THOUGHT it Would...The Guy was VERY EASY For Cotto to TAG & he was Being OUTBOXED...

REED UNDERestimated the EFFECTS of MargariTO's PERSISTENCE on Cotto's Stamina, but N NO Way Does that Mean REED was "Completely Wrong" about MargariTO...


REED:boohoo:

 

All REED has Said is that SOMETIME N 2009, MargariTO Needs to Fight a RE w/Paul Williams...

How EXACTLY is that "Discrediting" Him???...

Seems to REED Like MargariTO Lovers Want to REST on the Cotto Win & Live Happily Ever After...


REED:boohoo:

 

I agree. I felt the same thing when he fought Mitchell. Looked like he was really going for the KO there and it was only by accumulation of some very hard flush shots and even though it took only 4 rds it seemed more of accumulation than power. Williams just didn't strike me as a hard puncher in that one because I don't recall Mitchell ever looking like he was really hurt.

 

i didnt care in a sense that if cotto won, it's because it would've made his potential bout w/ mayweather very interesting.

however, i picked margarito to win via late TKO and i have always been a great supporter of the fact that he's a world class fighter.

you labeled him as a guy who was 'mediocre' and nothing special. so that 'fuck you' comment was more than appropriate.

it doesnt matter though, there's nothing more to argue about. i proved my case in july and i haven't said much since. i admit that paul williams beat him fair and square and if they fought again, i wouldn't be all that confident in picking margarito anyhow. that doesn't take away the fact that he whupped cotto's ass.

 

Ridiculous. Williams didn't train a lick in the first fight. He trained and stopped that bum. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

 

I agree Margarito/Williams II was to happen! They are both caliming to be the best @147. Margarito has a loss in the hands of Williams, for him to claim he's the best he has to rematch Williams otherwise he can't claim he's the best @147.