BandWagon for Pac vs Martinez.

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    Fuck this nonsense.
     
    Hut*Hut, Nov 23, 2010
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  2. Anthony

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    I dont know. It was in the manilla times. And if Martinez puts his belt on the line, its for the title. You can come in underweight for a title fight. Just not over
     
    Anthony, Nov 23, 2010
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  3. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    DiBella said he would make the fight at 155 and Arum said no. So pactards chill on this fight.
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Nov 23, 2010
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  4. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    That's fair. I won't blase Pacquiao if he doesn't take the fight... I'm just saying I'd love to see him try. I don't think there are many boxing fans who wouldn't.
     
    steve_dave, Nov 23, 2010
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  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Yeah, I'd much rather see Pacquiao fight someone I'm 100% sure he'll beat.

    What the fuck fellas?
     
    steve_dave, Nov 23, 2010
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  6. Slice N Dice

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    I'm with Steven David on this one, I think Pacquiao should go for it, no one could say shit if he wins
     
    Slice N Dice, Nov 23, 2010
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  7. Anthony

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    Or loses.
     
    Anthony, Nov 23, 2010
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  8. Pascals Wager

    Pascals Wager Undisputed Champion

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    Is Martinez on PBF's hypothetical resume?
     
    Pascals Wager, Nov 23, 2010
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  9. Pascals Wager

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    The important thing is that when he meets the wall it will prove that PBF never needed to fight him, as he would have beaten him anyway.
     
    Pascals Wager, Nov 23, 2010
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  10. Double L

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    Just remember, for whatever reason (miscalculation, HBO 24/7, under-rating of Pacquiao), there's been plenty of guys who picked him to lose in each of his last six fights. So don't start acting like Pacquiao hasn't chased challenges all this time. He has. And whether he fights Martinez or not (I think it'd be idiotic for him to do so), there's no disputing this.
     
    Double L, Nov 23, 2010
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  11. Bob N Weave

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    Very true
     
    Bob N Weave, Nov 23, 2010
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  12. LATIN KING

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    what will Steward change? the guy is shot as a trainer.

    I do think Cotto would have been better off with Steward than that little punk he had working his corner who was afraid to even speak up.

    But he won't beat Manny even with Steward.
     
    LATIN KING, Nov 23, 2010
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    Not sure exactly how Pacquiao fighting a guy that Mayweather just beat when they actually had a momentum going on keeps translating to a great victory in the head of Pacquiao fans.

    I'm sure Floyd would get trashed if his next opponent was Margarito or Clottey but that's exactly what Pacquiao did. But hey, he was a flyweight and he sings and he's humble and Mayweather is an asshole so I guess I have to change the way I evaluate their wins.
     
    V10, Nov 23, 2010
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  14. V10

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    Pacquiao needs to get the fight done with Mayweather. Everyone is now putting the blame on Mayweather for the fight not being done but you all must have forgot that Pacquiao was the one that fucked the 1st fight not being done. The fact that he backtracked on the conditions of the fight after they fought apart confirms it. It's true that Mayweather is an asshole and we don't like him but let's not forget he was/is retired. He's fighting fighting about once every two years for a while now. The fight needed to be made then. So I blame Pacquiao a lot for fucking it up then and everyone should too. For fuck sakes this two need to fight, anything else feels like almost nothing and that goes for both.
     
    V10, Nov 23, 2010
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  15. LATIN KING

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    well the last time the fight could have been done Pacquiao agreed to the terms. Basically calling his bluff.

    Mayweather's response was " Im not thinking about boxing right now"

    That pissed off even Floyd's fans. No way anybody can defend that.

    weather you call it scared or not clearly he is not into the fight.
     
    LATIN KING, Nov 23, 2010
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    And IMO is proved that if Pac agreed to the terms initially, Floyd would have backed out then too.
     
    Anthony, Nov 23, 2010
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  17. royyjonesjrp4pno1

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    Floyd actually wanted to fight earlier in the year, he scheduled a fight against nobody so he obviously wasn't interested in fighting at all after fighting Mosley this year.
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Nov 23, 2010
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    This is why floyd is scared to fight. You have his balls in your mouth. Give them back. Lets get this fight going.
     
    Anthony, Nov 23, 2010
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    Everyone within a 5 weight division radius is on Floyd's hypothetical resume, you should know that Pascal.
     
    mexican wedding shirt, Nov 23, 2010
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  20. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Who has he fought in the 2nd of this year please tell me. Your acting like he ran to fight Clottey.
     
    royyjonesjrp4pno1, Nov 23, 2010
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  21. Anthony

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    I dont understand your question.
     
    Anthony, Nov 23, 2010
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  22. Neil

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    martinez would whip mayweather jr's ass, sir.
     
    Neil, Nov 23, 2010
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    maybe. 4 pounds is a great deal here. 150 is a JOKe of a demand. basically it is saying he wont fight him. and i dont blame him one bit for that. it isnt a winnable fight.
     
    Neil, Nov 23, 2010
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  24. The Genius

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    'Momentum' seems to be getting used alot lately.
     
    The Genius, Nov 23, 2010
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    Yes, I agree
    I suspect I mis(over) interpreted your post.
     
    Pascals Wager, Nov 23, 2010
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    Manny Pacquiao, the WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO CATCHWEIGHT champion of the world
     
    Haymaker, Nov 23, 2010
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  27. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Did Arum say also that he believes pac would beat Martinez? If he thinks that, then why not go ahead with the fight. Simple
     
    Jimmy, Nov 23, 2010
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    Momentum....winning streaks(even though 3 of 4 of Pac opponents had winning streaks going into his fight)....state of mind....in-form.....
     
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    ILLUMINATI, Nov 23, 2010
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  29. The Genius

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    Sounds like substituting buzz words for actual achievement to me
     
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  30. His_Royness

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    Ok just because you have a feeling, which i think is wrong anyways because Stewards style adjustments aren't usually a style that would suit someone against Pacman. And even if they make Cotto better there would be so much improvement to make from that disaster of a fight last time.

    To take that and give a fight more credibility thant someone who hadn't have a chance to try, yet is pretty crazy, imo.
     
    His_Royness, Nov 24, 2010
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