Berto-Ortiz: Final Predictions

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    Absolutely, you can't compare Berto to Taylor at all.

    One thing you have to give Jermain, he fought everyone, wasn't afraid to fight legit fighters in his own weight class, and only quit the super 6 because he was clearly done.

    The most accurate way of describing Berto is actually as you described, a drag on the sport, taking up a spot he hasn't earned.

    A guy like Berto hasn't earned the right to cherry pick, he hasn't even beaten one legit WW ffs, and he's masquerading as a world champ.

    Pathetic.

    Douche or not, I hope Ortiz gives him a vicious beating.
     
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    Do you guys think that Berto has any say whatsoever on who he fights?
     
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    Why wouldn't he. He has to sign the contracts.
     
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    Of course he does. While his promoters are going to suggest fighters etc, it IS him that ultimately has to sign the contract, and it IS him who can clamour for or try and demand certain fights.

    It's very, very clear he doesn't want to fight a legit welterweight. When they brought up Pacquiao's name, he went all coy.

    Pathetic excuse for a "world champ".
     
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    I don't give him that much credit, personally.
     
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    As a world champ?

    Obviously me neither, that's why I put it in inverted commas.
     
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    Nah. As anything other than a puppet. My gut tells me he's told who he can and can not fight.
     
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    The blame still lays on him.

    He's the fighter, it's his career.

    If he's being told what to do and mismanaged, find a new promoter or demand bigger/better fighters.

    Lots of other fighters have done it including Morales and Floyd, Berto is obviously content with being a fraudulent title holder.
     
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    Well in Berto's defense(cant believe I'm doing this) TR has thier own plans for Pac, and it probably doesnt involve Berto.

    But after he beats Ortiz, Berto should at least fight somebody like Mike Jones.
     
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    You are naive.
     
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    Seriously. Pacquiao/Roach want no part of Berto, a slick and fast fighter with a good right hand who offers huge risk and very little reward. Berto on the other hand, would jump at the chance to get knocked out by Pacquiao for $10 mil.
     
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    I agree with loadedgloves. Personally I believe Pac would destroy Berto within 6, but at the time.... I think Berto-Pac is a fight that interests Berto/Dibella more than it does Roach/Arum. And outside of Manny, who is there really for Berto? Like I said.... Mike Jones.

    And its funny that the same ppl criticizing Berto for fighting Ortiz are the same ones saying that Ortiz has a very good chance to win. Which he does, actually.

    Personally, I cant wait for tomorrow night. This is by far the most excited Ive ever been for a Berto fight.
     
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    Pacquiao against Berto wouldn't even be competitive. Pacquiao would pretty much destroy him, it wouldn't be much different from Pacquiao Vs Hatton.

    Berto is no risk at all. Even this version of Shane represents more risk. He is tougher and more powerful, even if he is borderline shot.

    Berto would jump at the chance? He wouldn't get 10 mil or even close to it, and did you not see the interview where they mentioned Pacquiao's name? He literally just mumbled something, he has no interest in fighting Manny at all.
     
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    Actually I think it's you that's naive.

    Most promoters are content to just milk their fighters for all they're worth, selling one bullshit fight to the public after another. Just like Frunk Werren made a career out of.

    For that to change, GENERALLY, it's up the fighter to actually campaign to get better fights, or move to another promoter. Berto is clearly content with taking no risks.
     
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    Yep, Hatton is a good example of that.
     
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    Yes he is, that's exactly what he did.

    Naive my fucking arsehole, if anyone is naive, it's those that think the fighter has no say. The fighter ALWAYS has a say ultimately.

    It's really whether they choose to enact that say, or be content to poodle along fighting nobodies, like Calzaghe did for most of his career, and like Berto seems happy to do.
     
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    berto would never get $10 million...that would mean Manny's getting $75 million.

    Berto has no fanbase so he'd have to take whatever they offered. Would simply mean Manny gets a larger slice of the pie.

    Don't forget, berto drew less than 1,000 folks to his "this one's for Haiti" fight. There are friday night fight cards that draw better than that.
     
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    Exactly, I have no idea why he pulled 10 million out of his arse. Berto is getting nowhere near that.

    Berto has no fanbase, which is actually quite encouraging.
     
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    There are club fights here in Houston that draw much more than that.

    The best thing to happen to the sport in that case is Ortiz knocks him out.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Ortiz "Check out these guns Berto."

    Berto "LOL, too bad theres no muscles in your heart."
     
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    Ortiz "Yeah, I heard through the grapevine that you're actually gonna step up the comp this year."

    Berto "N!GGA WHAAAAATTTT?? SHIIIIIIIIIIITTT"
     
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    That just made me spit my soda out my nose. FUCK YOU XPLOSIVE!
    That shit burns!!
     
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    Excuse the Peter Gazing chaps, but Berto also has a pretty small penis.

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    I would be prepared to just write off Berto's chances right now, but Jon Jones proved you can still be highly effective with a small penis, in his destruction of Shogun.
     
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    Fucking faggits shit....one of them has no cock, the other has no balls, fucking nonsense.
     
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