Better Fighter: Leonard or Whitaker

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    Bert and his endless Cuban cigar was nothing more than a made up persona that he milked as long as he could. I feel the same way about Teddy Atlas as I do about Bert Sugar. A blustery fellow. Lots of hot air and very little substance.
     
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    Yeah, I always thought that was a stupid thing to make up. Liston wasn't immediately in the slightest. In fact, I found his stunt with the fake handgun funnier than any of Ali's wit in the build up.
     
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    This is a very apt comparison.
     
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    Motherfucker Never Even LIT the Cigar Either, that REED Can Recall:duck:...

    Teddy IS a Blow Hard Who's MILKED His Affiliation w/Tyson and Cus D'Amato, but he's a LEGIT "Boxing Guy" Too...He's Waaaaaaaay HIGHER Up the Boxing Food Chain Than Bert Sugar's Ass Was, in REED's Opinion...






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    And for the Record, NO, REED Did Not Anoint Himself the "Black Bert Sugar"...The Owner of Pugilism Company Did...





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    For what its worth, behind the persona, Atlas actually does know what he's taking about - from a technical perspective.

    Sugar... not so much. He could only speak in clichés.
     
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    The similarities are there between Atlas and Sugar (both full of shit.) Atlas was a real boxing guy but like a million years ago. As a trainer I'm not impressed. He worked with some big names like Moorer but I don't seem to remember him taking a good or great boxer from A to Z. And for as much as he has milked the Tyson name over the years his role was more of a second/bucket boy for Tyson. I think Rooney and obviously Cus played a bigger role(chief seconds) in Tyson's Corner.
     
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