BIGGEST Fights that NEVER Happened???....

It probably would have have been pretty big in 1996.

 

Riddick Bowe-Ray Mercer...not the biggest fight never made, but bigger than Bowe-Ferguson, which was made.

Golota-Mercer...there weren't a lot of people who didn't want to see that fight made back when it was being discussed.

 

So what? If you can die in 3 minutes of toughman, you can surely die in a boxing match.

 

Boxing matches and toughman competitions aren't nearly the same thing...and that's not just in terms of who competes in them.

 

They are exactly the same thing except boxing is far more dangerous. Toughman is just a modified form of amateur boxing. More dangerous because it is set up to be an offense-oriented sport, but completely trumped by its safety aspects--3 minutes total, quick stoppages, headgear, big gloves, less skilled opponents.

 

So BESIDES All of the Highlighted Shit, "They are Exactly the Same Thing?"...

The Bottom Line is, U'll Find SUPERIOR Boxing in a Semi-Final OR Championship REGIONAL Level Golden Gloves Fight than U Would in ANY Level of Toughman Competition...

REED PERSONALLY Knows 5-10 SUCCESSFUL Toughman Participants that BARELY Made a Ripple in a REGIONAL Ammy BOXING Match....Toughman is "More Dangerous" Because the VAST MAJORITY of its Participants "Box" on a RUDIMENTARY Level.....There's Waaaaaaaaaaaay More REGULAR Guys in Toughman Contests, than there R in your Typical Ammy Boxing Match...

REED:hammert:

 

My response is simple: you are wrong. Good luck demonstrating that toughman is more dangerous than boxing by any metric. So prove me wrong.

 

A modified form of amateur boxing?

Safety aspects?

http://www.secondsout.com/ringside/...man--whats-the-problem-one-observers-thoughts

Dr. Margaret Goodman:

 

Of course it is a modified form of am boxing. It is boxing done by amateurs.

Since when does being in shape protect a fighter from being killed in the ring? It's just speculation without any proof and in fact it is contrary to the evidence that exists, to my knowledge.

Find me something tangible. Dore has always maintained that toughman is safer than boxing and I have never seen anyone who has effectively refuted his stance with anything resembling evidence.

 

Of course, if you are out of shape, there is more strain on every inch of you --- the body, the brain, the vital organs. Your reflexes also suffer, making you more vulnerable to potentially fatal onslaughts. From that perspective, you are at greater risk, under the exertion of a fight, if you are overweight.

On the other hand, a truly out-of-shape individual is more likely to induce a ref's mercy earlier in a fight as he runs out of petrol, or cannot match pace with his opponent & is knocked out early, whereas fit fighters can go long into the night, potentially setting them up for a fall down the stretch, as the punishment mounts.

 

Of course, in this instance, "amateur" means both a person weighing 240 pounds deciding to fight on the "spur of the moment" and 180 pound one who'd reportedly won five Toughman bouts the past year.

 

It's LAME Enough that U CONSISTENTLY Go OUT of your Way (Like the ATTENTION WHORE That U R) to Shine Light on your Posts, via ABSURD Boxing Opinions (Kessler ALREADY a "Great" Fighter, JC Gomez a GREATER Crusierweight than Evander Holyfield, Among Them)....

But U COMPOUND Your Lameness by PATHETICALLY Throwing LAME Boxing Opinions to the Wall, PRAYING they'll Stick AND Asking Others to "Prove" that YOUR Lame Ass Point ISN'T Accurate....

Why Don't YOU PROVE that Toughman ISN'T Any More or Less "Dangerous", Mr. Answer Man...


REED:boohoo:

 

"Modified Form of ENTRY LEVEL Am Boxing"...



REED:Lok:

 

For mainstream appeal and the magnitude of the event, I can't picture anything bigger than Tyson-Foreman.

 

REED, I like you well enough, but you have proven you are too f'ing stupid to debate with. The rarity of deaths in toughman compared to pro boxing has been maintained for a decade or longer and I've never seen anything resembling a competent rebuke. So you do the work.

 

so what? there is no evidence that i've ever seen that shows that rank amateurs are more at risk of death than seasoned pros. The two sports are exactly the same thing when it comes to risk...punches are thrown at the head.

 

Of course if this instance had been reversed, the fact that a 240 lb fatass had killed a 180 lb fighter would be the tragic circumstance.

Shit happens when people get hit in the head. That's about the only conclusion i've ever been able to arrive at when trying to understand ring deaths. People like to draw conclusions from too little evidence and it often leads to incorrect conclusions. I am also guilty of it I'm sure, but I didn't start this topic in this thread.

 

Just as REED Thought...

U're Waaaaaaaaaaaay Tooooooooooo LAME to Conjure Up ANYTHING WHATSOEVER that Supports your Half Assed "Point"....Instances like THIS 1 is why NOBODY on FB Respects your Posts.....

Perhaps it Works on OTHER Sites, but your Contrarian BULLSHIT Fails MISERABLY on Fightbeat, Homegirl....



REED:Lok:

 

Way to back up your opinion.

There have been a whole 12 deaths in toughman going back to 1981.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toughman_Contest

That means in another 30 years it will equal your iq, you moron.

 

That link only has one 2010 death, but the AP report you linked said "At least three competitors have died in the past nine months".

 

The link was from 2003. You'll see that there were four deaths in 2002 and 2003.