Bivol is a beast

you never mentioned your career, french mongtana

 

Smoothly worded!

 

The ward/kov stoppage was corrupt. No doubt.

 

that's a much too convenient cop out

 

Nobody is saying Kov was going to win. Or even that he would not have been legitimately stopped eventually. That is beside the point. The bottom line is, the ref ruled Kov was knocked out directly following repeated low-blows.

 

Again thats a much too convenient assumption. Weve seen fighter come back from much worst, ward is not a puncher nor a finisher, and the fight was close. He might have come back completely rejuvenated after a 5 minutes break, which he should have got.

Not to mention that the first ''body blow'' that started the whole sequence was also a low blow (compare the instructions given by weeks at the start of the fight, to where it landed though I must say that this one was really borderline)

The worst part is them refusing to go to the replay, even though the rules allowed it. Clear proof of corruption

 

To Elaborate, Kovalev was PAST the Point of Trying to WIN the Fight...

He was Not Only DONE, he’d Been Exaggerating the Effect of Body Blows a Few Rounds PRIOR to Being Stopped...

If Wlad Klit Can Be Raked Over the Coals for NEGATIVE Body Language Against Brewster, Kovalev ABSOfuckingLUTELY Should Be, for the Way he Composed Himself in the RE w/Ward....








REED

 

The stoppage was awful but Weeks is an awful ref... has been forever

 

Come on, the scorecards were basically even (2x 68-67 Ward and 1x 68-65 Kovalev and was ahead on most unofficial ones) so even with a probable 10-8 round for Ward (though in a honest fight, he would have gotten a point deducted) Kovalev was still in it if he could recover and was far from past the point of trying to win as he was still throwing and coming forward. Plus, Ward is not a big puncher, so I don't see it as a foregone conclusion at all that he gets stopped if the fight continue (especially with a 5 minute break, which he deserved).

While I do agree that his body language seemed to indicate he was going to lose anyway as he did seem dead tired in the 7th round (though he was still going forward and throwing punches), let's not pretend we've never seen boxers find their second wind and comeback from way worse (Wilder semmed far more out vs Ortiz just this weekend). And for someone who was ''overselling'' low blows, it's kind of funny that he never went down from one, even the last one which was aimed (and landed) directly straight on the balls

 

No doubt Weeks is awful, but how could he miss this when he was in perfect position to see it.
And it's funny to see people still claiming the shots were borderline (so legal) when there is clear video proofs they were not. I mean their guy won (or at least, the russian lost) so it's all good.


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Exactly. I don't see anyone here claiming Kovalev would have won for sure had the fight continued. In fact, I think everyone agrees that he probably would have lost anyway. Still, it was far from a foregone conclusion, no matter what the body language specialists on the board think, and, more importantly, the way it was stopped and handled was a pure sham.

 

Even the first body shot prior to the right hands was low, not as bad as the other ones, but low nontheless. This fight was a sham, and claiming Kovy was without a doubt beaten is disingenuous

 

He was bending over because of those ''borderline low blows (they seemed low to me)'', and there was nothing borderline about the last one, it was straight on the balls (and not deflected one bit). Sure Kov was getting wrecked in this round, but if every fight was stopped after this amount of punishment, we'd have miss an hell of a number of great fights and comebacks. Getting bitchslapped for one round doesn't = a clear loss (unless the bitchslapping deserved a stoppage, which you agree, wasn't the case here).

 

Imo the last shots were clearly low and it is a good point that with the rightful five-minute Kovalev might have gotten some wind back.

The fight was close and even a round more after five-minute rest MIGHT have made a difference, considering it is Kovalev in there trying to land punches.

In all likelihood it wouldn't have mattered as Kovalev was extremely tired, due lack of training and Ward's clever body attack. But there was injustice.

However I maintain my position that most probably this happened because of Weeks' incompetence, which he is famous for. There was a reason to stop the fight, even without knockdown, IF you missed the low blow.

 

This

 

You have to be very gullible to think corruption wasnt involved

You really think ward would have gotten.the same treatment if the roles were reversed?

 

Corruption simply isn't a necessary ingredient when the official is an incompetent spaz like Weeks

 

I think you are hung up on this being corruption or a conspiracy because of your established "USA = bad" obsession

There's far better examples (i.e. More likely) of corruption in American prizefights than this

 

Such nonsense, which obsession about the us???. Im the first one here to scream corruption wherever it happens.

Ans as i said numerous times, but is always ignored by the establisment defenders, the officials also refused to go to the replay, even though the rules allowed it. Which is simply scandalous. This not just a case of weeks screwing up

 

I am not sure about the rules but I find it odd if it really were possible to END the fight and then take it back when you realize there was a foul.

If it had been a case where a fighter goes down from a shot and claims that it was low, then I can see it could be reviewed. Or, from a video you could check if a fighter touches down or how he got cut.

But to look video and start over again after the fight has been ruled finished, I don't believe that can happen

 

://www.ringtv.com/502951-kathy-duva-officially-protest-finish-andre-ward-sergey-kovalev/

Yes they could have used the replay to do this

 

Every time someone American or someone you assume is American disagrees with you in any situation like this you immediately accuse them of ignoring/excusing all and sundry because an American fighter benefited ... you also do this with British posters

 

That is such a bunch of nonsense. Im doing only when they are obviously influenced by it. I also do the same things with quebecers

 

The decision to use replay is up to.... wait for it... Tony Weeks

 

Yeah, cause the officials couldnt have pressured him if they wanted to (we've seen it numerous times).

How many times weve seen a commi come to the ring apron and gives instructions to the ref.

And lets also conveniently forget that kovy got awfully robbed the first time around. The numerous circumstantials evidences are all pointing to corruptions, and theyre is.much too many of them for it to be only a coincidence

Anyway, no need to debate this any longer, since its obvious that no matter what, your adament on playing the useful idiots for this sham