BloodyElbow: "The [Fraudor] Era is finished, he'll never fight the best again"

I love how you're able to see through my bullsh*t, Buddy. I have to up my game a bit! ::

 

Undertaker did it for over 20 years if you include his WCW stuff. Lesnar pro wrestled for 4 or 5 in the WWE and New Japan Pro Wrestling.

Contrast to that, Fedor has been a Combat Sambo (strikes allowed) and Russian Judo Champ since 1997. His schedule has slowed down in recent years (as has Lesnar's), but Fedor's been fighting in MMA for the last 10+ years.

Real punches, elbows and kicks hurt and damage more than choreographed ones...particularly when the real ones are being thrown to hurt you---not to look nice for a predetermined outcome.

 

not to say that it's more dangerous than MMA, but i think pro wrestling is more taxing to one's health mainly because those guys go on the road and do house shows in between and are always on pain killers. drugs and getting slamed on a daily basis sure does attribute to chronic injuries or conditions in the long run.

 

I have no doubt that the pro wrestling lifestyle is very destructive, but it doesn't help that many of these people become self-destructive, allowing themselves to be struck by more and more objects and taking too much punishment for the sake of a storyline (Mick Foley, anyone?). AND the very widespread recreational drug use doesn't help.

It's self-inflicted though, or it's someone trying to make it look real. It's paid stuntwork, but it's not as deadly as having someone honestly trying to knock you out or snap one of your limbs off.

I still say boxing is the one which is most brutal. Padded gloves and hundreds of shots to the head in one bout. That trumps pretty much anything, but a long MMA career is second in my opinion.

With wrestling, you know approximately what's going to happen and you roll with it while also trying to make it look realistic. Injuries happen, but the injuries in MMA are intentional---in pro wrestling, they are the result of exhibition-type showmanship for the sake of a storyline.

 

well, steroid use is ubiquitous in all sports. but i do agree that boxing's the most dangerous sport one of them all. plus, mma is relatively new and its pioneers like randy couture and mark coleman are still fighting. i guess we'll find out when those guys along w/ don frye, ken shamrock, and other old fighters are in their 50s and 60s.

it's clear that a guy like mark coleman was on roids in the early UFC days. guys like him and mark kerr have had problems w/ injuries possibly stemming from steroid use, but they haven't showed any signs of brain damage of any sort.

the thing about MMA is that these fighters don't have that many fights. look at randy couture for example. he's had a longer wrestling career, but amateur wrestling doesn't affect your brain or cause other implications besides chronic knee or shoulder injuries.