Bob Arum Tells Floyd Mayweather, Schaefer: "Go To Hell!"

Then tell your boy Floyd to shut the fuck up and adhere to the same standards he fought his previous 40 fights under.

The fights done ten minutes later.

 

'Like I said before"

If Floyd is that concerned then back out and wait until Nevada adopts testing he feels comfortable with.

 

But what will Floyd do for money in the meantime?

He needs some pocket change:nono:

 

he's got a lucrative gambling habit to fall back on...he told Joe Buck he won $1.3 million one weekend.

 

the real side effects are the stoppage of your natural hormone cycle.

when you take testosterone or nandrolone or deca or etc. etc. it stops your bodys natural production of testosterone (hence shrunken balls) this is why when people cycle off they commonly take estrogen to shock the body into starting its natural cycle over. (manny ramirez, jose canseco, etc.)

the supposed side effects on the liver are few if any. any non propogandic research done on it suggests that even steroid ABUSE is much easier on the liver than mild alcohol abuse. simply a myth propogated by anti steroid people.

a big study conducted 4 years ago concluded by showing that only 16 of the 320 participants (about 5%) showed "roid rage"

only certain unregulated steroids are damaging to the liver, heart, brain. in the 1970s those were being abused. but in modern athletics that is no longer the case. sylvester stallone has been openly taking steroids and growth hormones for the last 25 years and look how he is doing.

with a proper nutritionist and physician steroids are absolutely NOT harmful to athletes any more than eating fast food 5 times a year, and almost always the negative side effects (acne, shrunken balls, etc.) can be reversed by using other steroids.

there is a reason these drugs are given to AIDS patients and kids that dont hit puberty etc. not to poison them, but to give them the boost they need. give that boost to an already healthy athlete and the reward far outweighs the risk.

 

Thanks. We are nowhere close to agreeing. Oh well.

That there are side effects indicates to me that there should be concerns. Something shrinks up my balls, it better be freezing water. And my preferred solution is getting out of the water, not taking estrogen.

Adverse effects on the liver are something that I personally wouldn't want to risk. Not to mention the adverse effects that haven't been diagnosed yet. Nor would I want my son, my brother, or some jacknut off the street to risk any side effects from steroids only in the pursuit of increasing his athletic prowess.

5% isn't something I would dismiss. In my mind, that is a very large and significant percentage. And I would consider 'roid rage', as portrayed in the media, as being a significant and dangerous side effect. And I think it suggests that there may be other psychological effects that aren't as apparent. I'm no doctor, I concede.

I wonder if your equating the danger of steroids to fast food is accurate? I doubt it very much. My balls don't react when I eat a Big Mac.

That steroids can be more beneficial to AIDS patients than they are harmful...well, this is conceded. They work. But, I want my athletic heroes to be naturally gifted, to not have to resort to steroids, and to not get to where they are by using means that I would not use myself, nor would I want others to use.

That many pro athletes resort to steroids to gain an advantage only indicates to me that the problem is pervasive and needs to be fixed, not ignored.

 

i dont disagree.

but 95% OR MORE of the nfl takes steroids.

high school phenoms take steroids. any big muscleman you see anywhere is very likely to take steroids.

any athlete who wants to compete on an elite level in boxing, gymnastics, wrestling, football, tennis, swimming, track and field should use steroids.

doesnt mean there are not exceptions to the rules, and some people are naturals, but that is rare.

its a money thing. you play baseball and weight train 5 days a week, have a great diet, do ok in the minors making 45K a year(spending most of it on the great amounts of food and supplements you are already using). your buddy who has been at your talent level for years starts cycling and changes his workout regimen to include steroids. now he has made the majors and makes 650K a year.

what do you do?

this is what happened in pro sports and it just snowballed.

just 15 years ago nba athletes were on average 210 LBS and now? 225.

how could that be? they are even faster now than before as well.

be a journeyman or be a contender. alot of times steroids are responsible for that gap.

 

thing is, a non-athlete taking steroids isn't going to be able to compete, just like a non-athlete who works out a lot isn't going to compete.

also, there's few drugs, if any, out there that are worth a damn that don't have side effects.

not opposing or supporting your position - just pointing those things out.

 

As I said I am not well wersed on steroids at all, but judging from every other powerful drug in existence, common sense and logic, I believe WBC is playing down the side effects of steroids.

A drug this powerful MUST have more significant side effects than you're suggesting choke, just like heroin, cocaine, LSD, and even a fairly low end natural drug like marijuana have significant side effects.

 

i dont disgaree.

but with regulated use closely watched by trainers and physicians who have counter drugs for the side effects the side effects arent shit. which is why morphine, etc. is administered with nearly no side effects at hospitals but the weaker version of it (codeine, oxycontin, heroin) is far more lethal due to the people who are using it.

healthy people smoking marijuana are not being negatively affected by it. not significantly at least.

now someone who goes to mexico and buys a random steroid and just takes it without any knowledge of it is definitely putting his body in danger. like taking cocaine you bought from some guy of the street corner...a much bigger risk.

 

Possibly yeah, scientifically manufactured drugs are obviously safer than street drugs.

Grass probably wasn't a good example, as the side effects are mental, not physical.

Trust me, I come from a town full of puff heads, and I know many people who are fucked up from too much weed, bad memory, paranoid, no ambition etc. Pretty significant side effects for a casual, seemingly innocuous drug.

By the way pure heroin is stronger than morphine. There is a weird story behind heroin, it was developed as a less potent, less addictive drug than morphine (as an over the counter pain killer) but turned out to be significantly more powerful, and well, the most addictive drug ever ::

But possibly yes, when treated as a science the side effects should at least be less than street drugs.

 

was not aware of that. did know that heroin was developed as a less powerful version of morphine, but i guess not. makes sense.

 

morphine is stronger than heroin.

 

Not than pure heroin it isn't. Stronger than cut up, shitty street stuff, sure.

 

double reLapse's quest for the blue magic is never ending.

 

you wait with baited breath to see what the guy will say next, dont ya?

 

Seemingly yes ::

The morphine he was given was obviously much better than the shit he got skanked with on the street.

 

:shit::shit::shit:

WHATthefuckEVER, Dude...If U HAVEN'T Noticed this Motherfucker RACE BAITING for the Last 2 Fucking Days, YOU Can KINDLY FUCK OFF, Buddy....

Talking about "Shackled Mandingo's" & ALL that Shit...GETthefuckOUT of Here, Unless U're Gonna POLICE this Shit Across the Fucking Board....Not To Mention Alabama BITCH'S SIMILAR Tactics....



REED:shit::shit::shit:

 

:atu:

I turn on my PC, I put on my fly shorts, and wind Reed up, YA DIG???

Listen, when you are finished menstruating, I believe I said that if Manny was going to be treated like this, you might as well shackle him and call him "Manny Mandingo".....Woop-Dee-Fucking-Doo.

You were the one talking about drunken dishonest thieving Irish.

Chill the fuck out...Eg-REE-gious.

 

There is the "offending" passage for all to see. Reed is getting pissed over this, which, in context, is perfectly innocent. Yet Reed is bringing up OJ and referring to drunken thieving "Micks".

Pot, Kettle.....Black.

 

Dude, You're INCAPABLE of "Winding" ANYTHING Up, Nevermind REED...REED has Been PIMPING YOUR Ass for HOW Many YEARS Now???...Got U STROLLING UP & Down 1 Thread After Another, DESPERATELY Trying to Get REED's Attention....Just like a Pathetic HOOKER Trying to Attract a TRICK...

1 of Us has a HISTORY of INSTIGATING & INITIATING Race Related BULLSHIT @ 1 of Us DOESN'T...That's what IRKED REED about Buddy Rydell's Comments...REED is a LEGITIMATE CONTRIBUTOR to this Site...YOU'RE the Guy that Holds the Fightbeat RECORD for BANNINGS....YOU'RE the PETULANT Little SHREW that Got Put on PUNISHMENT & Had his Favorite TOY Taken Away for 12 Months, NOT REED...

& Buddy KNOWS All of this Already...



REED:hammert:

 

You must be getting wound up, if you are bringing up OJ and playing the drunken Irish race card. You must be. Consider yourself WOUND, son.
Manny doesnt have a reputation for doping, yet Reed is treating him like he did, on shaky dangerous "evidence".....your bullshit dont fit you must acquit!

Anyways......is Shanes legacy at 147 now trash for the Balco affair? It must be, if Mannys is trash for refusing to take a test above and beyond the usual.

If Irish REE-members correctly, Reed is ducking this one.

 

Riiiight...So YESTERDAY, U DIDN'T Ask What's Up w/the BLACK Man MISusing the Word "Egregious????....Yet when Double L Does LIKEWISE, U're SILENT???...

U've Been FLAMING For @ Least 2 Days, Scrub...YOU Know it as Well as REED Does...Hell, it's a Fucking MIRACLE U Went as Loooooooong as U Did w/Out Doing the Shit....

Lving DOWN to your Reputation As Usual...


REED:hammert:

 

Nope...I did no such thing. I asked what was up with "Black Folk...USING" the word Eg-REE-gious. Go back and REED it.

Double L was joking, in case that sarcasm went over your head.

The guy over on blackathlete was talking about Duke boys hiring strippers was "Egregious". But I ain't even going to go into that.::

 

You need blood for hgh testing and that is what he is probably taking.

 

What's a mandingo?

 

Precisely...& REED Spoke Out YESTERDAY about YOU "Going There"...Nonetheless, TODAY, U Whipped Out "Chaining him Up" & Calling him "Manny Mandingo"....

AFTER BOTH of those Instances, REED Speaks of DRUNKEN MICKS & O.J., yet YOU Decide to Get your Feewings Hurt???....Don't "Go There" w/REED in the FIRSTfuckingPLACE & U WON'T have Problems...But by Even TOE'ing the Line (Especially Considering YOUR History of Racial BULLSHIT), U're ASKING REED to Retaliate...

& he WILL EVERYTIME...

REED Won't Even Get Into Alabama Bitch's BULLSHIT Remarks....





REED:hammert:

 

Anybody who discards due process and Habeas Corpus, and paints a fighter guilty in the absence of convincing proof is making a slave and a mockery of that individual. Any man who attempts to appropriate another mans reputation by way of slander and innuendo is making a mockery of that mans labours and efforts.

Thats what you are doing Reed, and if you treat him like a penniless unentitled wretch with no rights then you can expect him to be called one too.
And you can dress that up anyway you want after that.

 

Would you believe, I asked Alabama to cool it on all fronts, so Its not like I sat back and enjoyed it either.....so you might take that into account, if not, fine.

 

Person from the Mandingo river region in Nigeria, the preferred type of slave, apparently.

I was going to say "Kunta Kinte" but Hopkins always uses that one, and I didnt want to be associated with that piece of shit any more than was necessary.