Bob Arum Tells Floyd Mayweather, Schaefer: "Go To Hell!"

Yep

 

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I think Floyd is gifted. I think he's one of those rare fighters who is both very talented, and very well schooled.

I think he's the biggest pussy that's ever been on a pound for pound list, but he's definitely got talent in addition to skill.

 

I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder. Floyd's speed is awesome and the manner in which he can slip punches is beyond anything that can be taught. The principals are the same but how many fighters can pull it off with the success that FM does?

That's what I mean by gifted. It's one thing to train in a certain style, it's another entirely to be so good at it that you're rarely hit clean.

 

I agree, his defense is phenomenal. That must be mainly talent than schooling, otherwise more people would be that good at defense. He's clearly naturally very adept at slipping/avoiding punches.

But his speed isn't extraordinary. Judah was significantly quicker than him when they met, Roy was quicker despite being much bigger, and of course Manny is quicker too.

Floyd was pretty damn quick at 130, but he hasn't retained his speed as much as people like Manny and Roy have, throughout the weights.

Incidentally, Floyd obviously isn't as confident as you about beating Pacman, or he wouldn't be making this fuss.

If he was TRULY confident, he'd be utterly arrogant about it, and use it as a point to nause pacquiao and get in his head. Like "Yeah I think you're on PEDs, but I don't care, I'll still bash you up".

If the fight comes off, Pacquiao should be more confident after this hoorah, as team Floyd are obviously worried, and not that confident at all. Either that or it's nothing but trying to fuck with Pacman.

 

I know. I've said as much in another post. I really think all of this is more detrimental to Floyd then Pac.

If Pac agreed to this testing, I'm close to 100% sure that FM would come up with another demand.

 

Really?

Do you think despite being as good as he is, and officially undefeated etc, he has confidence issues?

 

I think he's more invested in his 0 then he should be. He's talked it up for so long that if he was to lose, he will rightly be shredded for it.

As boxing fans, you and I know that a loss means nothing in the grand scheme if a fighter can return and be at the top of his game after it. Floyd has based much of his 'media personality' around being undefeated.

He made a rod for his own back in my opinion.

 

Good point, I think Calzaghe done the same, got the "undefeated" thing and didn't want to take risks because of it

 

I agree, there's certainly some truth to that.

 

well interesting note from Robert Morales article today on boxingscene, regarding Mayweather jr and Mosley:

Schaefer also brought up a conversation he said he had with Mosley and De La Hoya back in 2007, before De La Hoya fought Mayweather in May of that year.

"Shane and me and Oscar were sitting here in my office talking about the Mayweather fight," Schaefer said Tuesday from his Golden Boy offices in Los Angeles." Shane said he didn't really want to do the fight right then, that he wanted to take a cross-country trip with his family. Oscar said, 'You have first choice.'"

Schaefer said Mosley had made up his mind and that De La Hoya then took the fight with Mayweather instead.

"It's not like within the last couple of years that fight wasn't there," Schaefer said. "It was there, Do i think that eventually one of these fights are going to happen? Yes, I Do. Shane is an unbelievable fighter and, for me, if Shane sits and doesn't fight, then we don't make any money. We have a percentage deal. I would like Shane to fight every month."


Muzse?

 

Shane is one of the most disgraceful frauds there is. Acting like Floyd is ducking him. The champion of Balco has been avoiding Floyd Jr for years.

 

I hate Floyd more than any other active boxer. I am a 100% hater and a Pacquiao fan since he beat Barrera...BUT I cannot help feeling that Pacman's camp is freakin' out by this demand. Now I am convinced Pacquiao has been using ilegal juice for his out of this world achievements. This answer from Arum-Pacquiao camp is not satisfactory at all and it is them, not Floyd, the ones that prefer to lose the biggest purse in the filipino's career than to be caught cheating. :nono:

 

An UNBIASED Take???...What a Fightbeat RARITY...



REED:cheer:

 

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It's funny the consistently dumbest posters on this site think Floyd is in the right::::Let me ask you something, are any of you men? You guys must all be a bunch of catchers. Floyd's demand is atrocious and unprecedented. Seriously, what would you complete morons say if Pac said ok I will take blood, but the ring can be no larger than 10 feet::::"WHAHAAA Pac's a pussy, whaaa, I want Floyd's sperm in my mouth, boo hoo, whooooooooooo::::

 

Is the NEVERENDING Array of GAY References Supposed to Make YOU look More HETERO or Something???...It AIN'T Working...



REED:nono:

 

Reed, can you tell me of another professional fight when blood testing has been required in order for a fight to occur?Also for the record, which fighter is making the UNPRECEDENTED demand? Floyd or Pac?

Btw, there isn't more hetero you either are or your not. I am. You want to fuck dead chicks and Roy Jones.

 

Which Fighter Made the UNPPRECEDENTED Run from 106 to 147, MAINTAING Speed & Power EVERY Step of the Way???...Which Fighter has Actually IMPROVED as he's Drastically Moved Up in Weight the Last 2 Years???...Which Fighter Struggled MORE w/Larios & Solis than he Did w/Hatton or Cotto???...

Which Fighter has a GROWING List of His PEERS Questioning his Accomplishments on a DAILY Basis???...

w/the Possible Exception of Jaws, NO Poster Talks about GAY Shit MORE than U...Sorry, but that's NOT the Least Bit "Hetero", Homey....


REED:nono:

 

Sorry, Reed. Please name me a single professional fight that one fighter required an additional drug test above and beyond the legal requirements of the jurisdiction. Just one.

I am certainly not interested in your interest in my sex life. I am vanilla. I like women only(living ones) and I wouldn't even be interested in having sex with 2 women at the same time. I am boring, a bookish fellow, the quiet an retiring type. I am not interested in you at all. Sorry, for the public rejection. I ask you a simple question "homey". Yes or no.

When has a fighter ever made another fighter go through extra tests without cause. I know you have problems with logic and stating Manny's success is proof of drug abuse is not proof of anything. So answer thespecific question, when has a blood test ever been required for a fight to take place? Just name one time, please.

 

As the muscles get stronger at a greater rate than the tensile strength of the connective tissue, it can lead to possible muscle and tendon tears. Acne, possible cancer, testicular atrophy, mood swings possibly leading to depression. Those are a few of them anyway.

 

Whats the harm? Pac along with Floyd should take the tests and put peoples doubts to rest and lets move on to the biggest fight of the decade. Or is he scared of something?

 

1. Manny is not as fast as he was when he was a Jr. Flyweight/Flyweight.
2. Most fighters squeeze themselves into a weight division as long as they can in order to rehydrate and gain weight to be significantly bigger on the night of a fight.
3. Struggling with lesser opponents can be an indication that you've outgrown a weightclass AND it is understandable that Pacquaio had a harder time with lighter fighters who were faster and more mobile. Plus, Hatton and Cotto were each coming off of KO losses that appear to have altered the trajectories of their respective careers.

This could be argued for a long time, but if the fight has not been signed, this could be a shrewd negotiating tactic on Floyd's part...OR it could be a psychological tactic...or an exit strategy.

 

This is not a typical situation where Floyd hand picks his opponent, this is the fight people want to see. Mosley called out Mayweather in his last post fight interview, and Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Now this is the only other fight for Floyd and he is looking for a way out.

It is a shame because it is obvious Floyd is paranoid about his undefeated record yet IMO he beats either Shane or Pac regardless. He should drop the bullshit and just beat these guys. It is no wonder the guys nickame is Floyd Bedwetter.

 

First time I heard it. ::

 

This is not a typical situation where Floyd hand picks his opponent, this is the fight people want to see. Mosley called out Mayweather in his last post fight interview, and Mayweather doesn't want to fight him. Now this is the only other fight for Floyd and he is looking for a way out.

It is a shame because it is obvious Floyd is paranoid about his undefeated record yet IMO he beats either Shane or Pac regardless. He should drop the bullshit and just beat these guys. It is no wonder the guys nickame is Floyd Bedwetter.

 

Its never happened before. So what that doesn't mean that it never should. Floyd and his team think that Manny is on roids so they want random testing to prove that he isn't or at least isn't juicing anymore.

 

Maybe if Floyd fought a bit more often, we would get to see some bum performances out of him, more often.

 

Part of the reason he looked "so bad" vs JMM was because JMM was at a weight that suited him...and JMM's opponent {Pac} was at a weight that suited JMM too....in otherwords, he wasn't carrying dead weight and fighting a guy who dwarved him....

Mayweather Jr. himself came out and said that the only reason Pac was making the weight is because he was very very young at the time.....here is the vid, from 2:20 on Mayweather explains how Pac was 16 when he weighed 106.

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