Calvin Brock and Chris Byrd negotiating an elimination bout

No , I'm saying Wlad because of how the fight played out with Wlad winning just about every minute of the fight before he was KO'd , is more likely to beat Brewster in a rematch then Brock is likely to beat him in a rematch.

 

Yeah, I just checked his record and I figured that's what you meant.

 

Just as it is going to be Brock's prerogative to fight Wlad, once Brock becomes mandatory challenger?

 

Well, was he KOed by a lucky punch, if he was winning every minute?

 

Are you trying to tell me Wlad wasn't winning on points before the KO ?
Is this what you are saying ?

 

What's the poing of winning on points, if your opponent is intent on knocking you out and doesn't care about points? Brewster went in there not to score points...He went in there to brutalize Wlad....and that's what he did.....why would he even care about points?

 

The only thing good out of this is it that hopefully Wlad doesn't fight either Brock or Byrd and chooses to fight another champion. The IBF strips him, and takes one more step closer to obscurety with the IBO, IBA, WBF, etc. One less abc belt having any relavance would be great for boxing.

 

What's your point exactly?

 

I think I made it clear by now. What's yours?

 

No you haven't made it clear at all. My point is that you can't compare Wlad getting a rematch against Brewster to Wlad giving a rematch to Brock. Two very different situation. Basically, you use the fact that Wlad is fighting Brewster to say that Brock should get a rematch. It makes no sense because Brock didn't beat Wlad like Brewster did. The only thing that's comparable is that neither should be getting a title shot right now, but Brewster is getting that privilege because he beat the Champ 2 years ago. That's how boxing works. And you know it because, despite being a marginal player in his division after loosing against Terron Millet, you always bring up Vince Phillips name when you talk about Tszyu. Phillips was never really deserving of a title shot based on who he fought, but based on the fact that he beat the champ by KO, he should have got one. Why you're not applying this logic in this case? That's one of your main grievances against Tszyu!

 

:: :: Whatever man. I guess you just don't see the point I was attempting to make ..

 

You got owned. Shut up and accept your defeat. You're turning this argument upside down to win it. We're not talking about why the first fights were made here but why rematches should be or should have been made.

 

And Phillips had 3 losses prior his fight against Tszyu, not 20.

 

huh? you're yet to explain to me how why Zoo chose to fight Philips.....

 

Did one of these losses happen in Philips' last fight before Zoo fight?

 

I don't see the point of winning on points if your opponent doesn't care about points and builds his whole strategy on knocking you out.
Got my point?

 

Why should I? We're not talking about this.

 

Irrelevant post. Keep it up.:bears:

 

Wasn't it you who brought up Zoo and Philips in this whole conversation?? :dunno:

 

Yes, we are. Just a reminder, it was you who brought up Zoo and Philips in this conversation. Do you wish to drop that topic now?

 

Why are you blaming Wlad for doing what you blamed Tszyu for not doing? That's the real question here.

 

I'm not blaming Wlad for anything. All I'm doing is making sure he doesn't avoid the rematch with Brock, which he seems quite intent on doing.

 

:laughing: ::

 

When Brock fights himself into a position to Challenge Wlad again then he is more than welcome to do that. Until then I do not play the "what if, coulda woulda game" and right now he has no grounds to demand anything.

 

You mean, like Brewster fought himself into a position to Challege Wlad again, by losing in his last fight, coming off of a major eye surgery and being inactive for 1.5 years?

 

:laughing: :: Dymipepel is getting into the same argument with a different person. You might win it this time. Keep it up.:bears:

 

oh, I'm sorry, you declared yourself a winner in the last argument? How brave of you! I especcially liked the part where you brought Zoo into the discussion, and then whined and moaned with "why are you bringing Zoo into conversation".....That was brilliant on your part.! :bears:

 

Thank you. Really, I appreciate a compliment once in a while. I like how you use the "Straw man" fallacy to win arguments, you raised it to an art.

 

Difference is Wlad is the champ, he can ask for this fight, it doesn't matter how deserving Brewster is because Wlad is the one wanting the fight.

Don't you ever get tired of trolling though? I mean really, I couldn't be this annoying I'd have to slap myself.

 

And when Brock becomes mandatory challener, can he ask for that fight as well?