Calzaghe Questions Bernard's Resume

I know it might not be a popular view but I think Hopkins would have his hands full with Kessler. I'm not sure he could beat him clearly, let alone school him...

 

How is that any different from Hopkins between '95-'01?

They were both single belt holders in splintered divisions for much of their title reigns until they unified the divisions.

 

not talking about unifying paper titles:nono: , but toward the end of that time he stood out amongst the rest and was the guy to beat at 160 by most
who rivaled Hopkins as champ at 160 after around '98? :dunno:


consensus was split down the middle on Calzaghe and Ottke right up until Ottke's retirement

 

Kessler would beat Hopkins. He's too accurate and busy for Hopkins' slop to work. What's Hopkins going to do, outwork him and take his big shots like Calz? no way.

 

That's because both Joppy and Holmes had to reclaim their titles from guys who'd beaten them previously.

They just weren't considered that good.

Granted, Joppy beat Duran but other than that the two were pretty non-descript champions.

 

:: what does that change?


Hopkins = the man at 160
Calzaghe AND Ottke = the guys at 168

 

He was the man because he beat Antwun Echols twice and needed two fights to beat Robert Allen?

 

yes that's right

he was regarded as so at the time

cos who else was there?


you = revisionist boy

 

He was considered the best of the champions, but the titles were still splintered.

Hopkins hadn't actually proven anything in the ring against the other champoins...and neither had Calzaghe.

How is that revising anything?

You're the one proclaiming he was "the man" in a division he hadn't even partially unified up to that point.

 

you = paper title fan boy

 

He wouldn't beat him, nor would Hopkins beat Kessler's son, Mundine, armed with his adopted shoulder-roll shit.

 

dsimon writes:

On paper the advantage goes to Kessler I grant you that. I think his balance is a lot better than Method man thinks and he is an accurate puncher. Kind of reminds me of this guy Roy Jones... JUSt KIDDING!! ::

But seriously Kessler is easy to mindfuck. Calzighe didn't really do that much mentally to assert himself in that fight. When one considers that both guys brought some of the same skills to the table it was remarkably easy for Calzighe to assert himself and basically clown Kessler.

Hopkins would do more of that and would tear Kessler up inside. I hate to make broad statements but the European boxing community sometimes lacks an understanding of fighting inside. Hopkisn has great body control and controlled aggression inside and it affects what the other guy can do when he gets beat on insided.

 

Kauki, your actual predicting record is abysmal, why do you feel confident saying "this fighter would beat that fighter", when 99% of your predictions are exactly opposite of what's happening in reality?

 

Precisely Dympeople, meaning the opposite is a sure bet that you are willing to make, with the security of your own statement in mind, I trust you will be gambling all your internet fees on a Hopkins victory, pre-fight. I believe I predicted Fraud by KO initially, just hoping that my curse would do the exact opposite,...but how was I to know that I'd hit the nail right on the head? :dunno:.

 

I love you Mike but you are smoking drugs if you think Kessler beats Hops

 

He was inactive for almost 2 years after Leija, but got ranked #3 on the P4P Ring list after dominating Mitchell in the rematch.

 

dsimon writes:

Mike may be smoking that new drug in Buenos Aires called Paco.... It is cheap cocaine and solvents and makes people believe things that are not real.

Kessler, a civilized Euro from Denmark would get a beatin inside from old man Hops. He would want to cry in a few rounds after that old man beat on him.

 

people don't realise that Hopkins is old

 

Just like I said Kessler is the 2007 Hawaii Warriors. A good team but the strength of schedule is what hurts him and will keep him out of the BCS. I'll Holla 5000

 

You should have saved this analogy.

It doesn't work with Kessler who still has wins over 2 top 10 fighters in his division including the highest rated guy besides himself and Calz. And Beyer was a top 10 guy when he blasted him away.

 

Who in the hell is Beyer? And who has be beaten? My comparison works perfectly when comparing Hawaii and Kessler. Hawaii dominated there weak ass division like Kessler has and when they stepped up to play in the BCS against Georgia they got the shit kicked outta them just like Kessler did against Calzaghe. Perfect analogy. I'll Holla 5000

 

Come on, mate. The fighters you havent heard of or don't know, could fill a NY cemetary forty times over.

 

Tam,

Let me guess Beyer is on the verge of being on the p4p list.:doh: I'll Holla 5000

 

dsimon writes:

Isn't Beyer what you for a headache or some shit? :dunno:

 

i'm sure i saw at least one american-based ranking - in ring mag, maxboxing, somewhere - where kessler was put among the 2/3 potential guys who were just outisde the top 10 p4p. i'm not saying it's my ranking: i hadn't even seen kessler until the slappy fight.

 

So in other words your not really sure if you saw the publication that had Kessler listed just outside the p4p rankings. You are hoping and wishing that they listed him in those positions. I see. Provide some facts homie to support your allegations. I'll Holla 5000

 

Boxingscene and Maxboxing have rankings where he's ranked between 10-15 now, which is after the loss (he was in the top ten on Boxingscene's list before the loss). He's currently ranked between 15-20 at Yahoo and Boxingtalk.

 

ha ha, honestly, i just don't care. if people tell me that they're certain that that isn't the case, then fine.

 

Finally I'm hearing about some controversy with the Hopkins and Calazghe fight. Joe should come out on top whether it be a knockout or a decision. Joe should be making fun of Hopkins losing to Taylor. What an upset Taylor has recently been.

 

Why??? Taylor did it, didn't he????