Calzaghe sucks...Worst champ in boxing

No, YOU think Roy is favored. Not favored as in odds, but as in, the most likely outcome of the fight is Roy winning.

Is this true?

 

there's no need to be touchy.

claiming Roy will beat Calzaghe is preposterous. Maybe in 10 fights at this stage in their careers he'd win one...if Calzaghe got injured.

I mean 8 years ago Roy wins this in a landslide, but this is not 8 years ago.

 

I don't think Roy is FAVORED. Favored by who? God? Jesus? Allah? Vegas? Define favored please...:doh:

I think he's gonna win. Care to debate the finer points or semantics?

 

Who?

 

Ok, it's preposterous. Thanks for the insight.

 

I've never made the claim that he was just an athlete.

I've always felt he was a very highly developed fighter who knew how to adapt his skillset to his athletic ability better than just about any fighter in the modern era.

 

Meldrick Taylor for starters.

 

You hear what you want to, then.

 

MOST Boxing Fans R AWARE of Things like LINES, ODDS, BETTING FAVORITES, etc...But Apparently, Some of Us AREN'T...

MOST Boxing Fans R AWARE of the Fact that RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS, RECENT WINS (& LOSSES) & Such Play a Role N who's FAVORED...But Apparently, Some of Us AREN'T...

So when a Guys Says "_____ Should B Favored, but I'm Picking _____ to Beat him", it's GENERALLY Understood that they're Going Off of Who'll B Favored Based on RECENCY....

MOST Boxing Fans can UNDERSTAND the Concept of Joe Calzaghe Being FAVORED to Beat Roy Jones, while PICKING Roy Jones to WIN that Fight...

But Apparently, Some of Us AREN'T...



REED:shit:

 

I just did. You believe the most likely outcome in the fight is Roy winning, despite him not beating a top 10 fighter in several years, and losing badly the last THREE times he was in with such a fighter.

As opposed to Calzaghe who just beat Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy in the past 2 years.

Just tell me what happened when Hopkins moved up in weight to fight Tarver...now tell me what happened when Calzaghe moved up in weight to fight Hopkins.

I mean these guys are leagues apart in terms of class at this stage in their careers. NOBODY but a complete Roy nut-licker could favor him over Calzaghe later this year

 

I didn't ask about Vegas odds. The Celtics are favored to beat the Hawks. My question to Kenneth was, do you favor the Hawks over the Celtics?

And his answer was yes, which is why I'm continuing to post in this thread, because it is an exceptionally bad call.

 

New Day, Same Ol' Tired, REDUNDANT Groin Area References from JAWS...


REED:cheer:

 

You didn't read my post. I said middleweight and above.

 

redundant:bears: , nice word

seriously though, the vacuum-like noise is disturbing my peace of mind, if u guys could tone it down...just a few notches that'd be great.

 

You're right. I wonder who said this:

And:

How about this gem:

I'm outta here...enough.

 

And your retort was something about a groin and it being preposterous. Great acumen there...

 

AGAIN, U can Acknowledge that Fighter "A" SHOULD B Favored while PICKING Him to LOSE to Fighter "B"...It's Done EVERYTIME there's a Major Fight...

It's Really NOT that Foreign of a Concept...

Based on RECENCY, Calzaghe should CLEARLY B Favored to Beat Roy Jones...But that Doesn't Mean he'll WIN...& that DOESN'T Mean Everybody Picking Roy will Say he Should B Favored 4-1 OVER Calzaghe, or Anything of the Sort...

Considering YOU Run a Prediction Contest, U Should Understand this Concept...Then Again, U're Running a Half Assed Prediction Contest, Which Probably Explains your Confusion on the Matter...

Anyways, THANKS for DEVOLVING a Pretty Good Debate N 2 an Arguement about NATHAN...



REED

 

Uuuuuh, U Could Always Find a New THREAD, FORUM, or Better Yet, a New SITE...


REED:dunno:

 

I didn't say he was ducking them.

That's your term.

I said he didn't want to fight to fight the other elite light heavyweights.

The first name on his lips has been Calzaghe, but if he lost, he had contingency plans.

He was looking at fighting Jermain Taylor last year...and reports were there were negotiations for that fight this year. Beyer's another name that's been mentioned.

He entertained ideas of Clinton Woods and was quoted in the British press wanting - if not campaigning - for that fight had he won.

If Jones wanted Johnson or Tarver, you really think he'd have to look hard for those fights?

As for the last comment, that's entirely out of the context because I was trying to explain a previous comment, the point of which was, he couldn't continue fighting LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS on the level of Ajamu and Hanshaw on the boxing fringes if he wanted to remain relevant.

Dawson at 6'3 and Tarver at 6'2 are significantly bigger light heayweights than Calzaghe, who's fought once at the weight and came in at 173...and Johnson is physically much stronger than Calzaghe.

Calzaghe is a relatively smallish 175-pounder.

 

Mister REED. You recently said that if Joe beat Hopkins you would have him as 1.b in your P4P top ten.

Do you still stick by this? I ask because the majority of the people on these boards who would give THIS version of Jones a chance to beat Joe if they fought later this year do so mainly because they think Calzaghe is shit/overrated/both, but you don't seem to do so. :dunno:

Realistically, how do you envisage that THIS version (years removed even from the one who lost badly to Tarver and Johnson) of Jones can beat the man you accept is one of the two best fighter's currently on the planet?

MTF :dunno:

 

I know I gave Joe some credit but I take it all back, he is a welsh bum and the more I watch the figth the more I think so. He could'nt do jack with a 187 year old Hops and he got dropped::

 

REED would Rate Calzaghe as a CLEAR-CUT # 2, Lb 4 Lb...Floyd is Still CLEARLY # 1 N REED's Opinion...REED would've Considered 1b Status for Calzaghe if he IMPRESSIVELY Beat Bernard...

But a Win is a Win & it was Controversy FREE, so Calzaghe Moves AHEAD of Manny Pac on REED's personal Lb 4 Lb List...

REED Gives Roy a Good Chance Based on STYLES...He could MATCH or SURPASS Calzaghe's Speed, Not to Mention his STRAIGHTER Punching...For the 1st Time EVER, Calzaghe will Face a Guy who can CONSISTENTLY Beat him to the Punch...

As Noted Earlier, Calzaghe SHOULD & WILL B Favored, but REED Gives Roy a GOOD Chance of Upsetting him...That's NO SLIGHT on Calzaghe, N REED's Opinion...REED Would've Picked TODAY's Version of Roy to Beat the Bernard that Calzaghe just Beat & Bernard was No Worse than Top 5 Lb for Lb on ANY List...


REED

 

:bears:

 

Strangely enough, despite his shotness, I think Roy will give Joe a better fight than Hopkins.

He'll throw more and land more, he won't just creep around grabbing and headbutting.

He also punches straight, has good reach, and despite his bad decline he STILL has very quick hands.

Round 4 onwards, Joe won the Nard fight running away.

I think Roy will be more difficult.

I also don't think he'll stop Roy, I think he'll win an 8 to 4 type decision, but not absolutely dominate him.

 

Roy will stop Joe

 

If he can't stop Trinidad (and face it, RJJ peppered Trinidad with every shot in the book through 12 rounds) then he won't even stagger Calzaghe.

 

That argument doesn't hold water. If Tito fought Roy like he fought Hops, he would've got stopped. Simple. Instead, he decided to play boxer once he got tagged. And Jones isn't the type of come forward boxer who will put him away.

Apples and oranges.

 

Actually tito was aggressive for most of the Jones fight, he was hardly on his toes, backpeddling.

 

Watch the second half of the fight. He backpedaled for nearly all of it.

 

is IMDAZED in denial or is he just that loyal? ::

it's not out of the realm to think that jones can somehow beat calzaghe. i certainly dont think so, and let's face it. jones doesnt like to get hit. once he gets tagged, he'll go in a shell like he did vs. tarver in their 3rd fight.

he's not antwun echols shot, but he's still a wounded duck who's been shot in the chin.