Can Povatkin beat Klitschko?

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Mohammad Abdullaev received an Olypmic Gold medal.
Did it help him in any way against Cotto?

 

Povetkin needs more seasoning.

 

ALOT More...

He'd BEAT the Chagaev's & Ibragimov's of the World RIGHT NOW, but he's AT LEAST a FULL Year Away from SERIOUSLY Threatening Wlad...


REED

 

SO do you think Povetkin is the 2nd best heavyweight out threre right now? If not, who else would beat him?

 

Ibragimov and Chagaev aren't any worse than Povetkin. I'd say those three are pretty equal. I wouldn't be sure picking any of them over the others. Not a one of them stands out.

What I am sure of is Wlad beats them all.

 

dsimon writes:

Think of it this way. How did Brewster beat Klitschk the first time? He was tough enough to take a lot of punishment and keep pressuring til he created an opportunity. If Potavin grew up in a neighborhood like Brewster did he would have had his ass whupped on enough times that he could also deal with the adversity, the gut check that might give him an opportunity to get at a guy like Klitschko, who has shown a tendency to wilt when pounded.

A lot of these fighters are athletes whoch is great but a fighter has to have heart and find a way to be very tough when most people would simply say "enough!"

 

Obviously, we Need to See Povetkin N w/PUNCHERS 1st...

REED Isn't Really Sure WHERE to Rank him (It's NOT like REED Rated Chambers very Highly)...But Fights Against the Likes of Sam Peter or Shannon Briggs would BENEFIT Povetkin Cause he'd Either LEARN Headmovement or Get KO'ed...

If REED were Handling Povetkin, A Calvin Brock Type of Opponent would B a Good Next Step...Then a Puncher like Briggs &/or Peter or Maskaev...Follow that Up w/a Big, Somewhat QUICK Cat like McCline...

If Povetkin PASSED All those Tests IMPRESSIVELY, then a Wlad Fight Could Happen...It would Take to Mid 2009 to Go that Route...

Povetkin is ALREADY @ the Stage where he DOESN'T Need to Waste his Time w/Other Prospects,(Thompson, Kevin Johnson,etc.)...Fight BONAFIED Heavyweight Contenders, Guys that will PREPARE him for Wlad, then Face Wlad...

The Goal is to BEAT Wlad, Not just FIGHT Wlad...

REED

 

dsimon writes:

Nice take brother Reed. I Like your line of reasoning.

 

That's saying something, considering they were both in the 2000 Olympics (as was Samuel Peter) and Povetkin wasn't til '04.

 

Brewster didn't pressure. That's a fallacy.

 

dsimon writes:

In the fight I watched he did! He didn't evade Klitschko to deliver his shots that much is certain.

 

Be basically took the beating of his life until Wlad fell over. ::

 

I thought you meant in an "effective aggressiveness" type of way like he was accumulating damage.

He came forward, but he just ate punches until the person punching him exhausted himself.

It was a style straight out of the Homer Simpson School of Boxing.

 

dsimon writes:

Well.... Yeah. But there is something to be said for having the toughness to do so. I don't advocate this approach because it is dangerous and self destructive. Yet in moderation a guy like Potovkin could learn something from this forebearance.

 

How to not shorten his career?

 

dsimon writes:

In moderation it is a good quality to be tough and have heart. You can be a really smart fighter like Tunney and have these qualities. Marciano survived this way and beat a ton of guys who were more skilled than him.

 

Yes...yes.....I agree. Siberia has nothing on..where did Brewster grow up anyways??

 

sibera is just cold.. it's not like it's Ghetto

 

Russia is a paradise I guess:: ::

 

dsimon writes:

You Euros have no idea how uncivilized this country is in the inner city ghettos. Siberia is man against the elements, Baltimore is man against man:: ::.

So what would you prefer? fighting against frostbite or against somoene putting a cap in that ass?:dunno: ::

By the time I was in 4rth grade I had been almost strangled to death in my neighborhood playground and been knifed (true story). And I was a relatively privaleged white boy. Can you imagine Rahman's childhood?

Now lets see in Ireland you lose a few teeth in a barfight and in UGO land they use....... SARCASM!! Uhhhhh!! ::

 

Brewster has heart and toughness in abundance, but he's on the same level as a fighter. Brewster had to rely on those qualities to win - to come from behind against Klitschko and Krasniqi - but they still didn't help him beat guys like Etienne, Shufford, Meehan (please don't quote me the scorecards) and Liakhovich.

It's too early to tell how much Povetkin has in those areas, though he showed plenty of determination in overcoming a rough start and maintaining his high work-rate despite his fatigue (he claims he had the flu before the fight) and he closed the fight strong (and did land some really telling punches late in the fight).

There's different ways to show the "intangibles" and putting in the work in training camp to get in shape and then fighting through fatigue during a fight are among them...and frankly, those are one's that Brewster struggled with.

Brewster often had a low puch-output in fights, keeping something in reserve so that he could open up when the opportunity arose (like his opponents tired). But if those openings didn't come, he would let rounds pass without doing much, not willing to do what it took to change a fight. And if he did try to change the fight and it didn't work, sometimes he'd just fall back into a lull.

 

So you think the streets of Moscow, St. Petersburg, not to mention even poorer towns, are peaceful and quiet?

 

Yes, Russia has very low murder and crime rates.