Canelo-Jacobs: FINAL Predictions

I'll go ahead and holla5000

 

But had Canelo been behind after four or eight rounds, he could have upped the pressure and won more convincingly. It works both ways.

I agree with REED. I couldn't see Canelo drawing with GGG, but I saw him beating Lara in a close fight.

Even though the house fighter gets the benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean all his close bouts were wrong decisions

 

Close decision win for Canelo with Jacobs appearing to edge it. Canelo has Golden Boy and that will have him up 4 rounds to zip before the fight even starts.

 

but this was never ever going to be the case ... which is the whole point

 

But it completely trashes your petty theory about robbery in the last rounds

 

What theory is that?

 

I remember having Lara beating the Juicer 8-4.

 

That the open scoring had changed the fight in favor of Canelo and that in the eyes if many Trout still beat him. Canelo could have upped his game too

 

The open scoring caused Trout to have to fight with urgency and take more chances, which allowed the Juicer to land the bigger, more telling shots.

Open scoring prevented Trout from being able to fight calmly and smoothly like he did against Cotto.

It definitely impacted the outcome.

The dirty Ginger gets every fucking advantage.

 

it did. 8-0 after 8 rounds. That score can't be defended. Trout was forced to do more. What's there to even debate here? The open scoring absolutely benefited Canelo ... that's what happened ... we don't need to imagine a hypothetical where Trout gets the benefit of Christodoulou's outrageous card because that didn't happen and it was never going to happen, which is the crux of the discussion

 

Yes, but the open scoring allowed Canelo to be more passive too, which lead to Trout out-hustling him in several rounds.

Open scorecards change the attitude and tactics of BOTH fighters.

That is why you can't have your own scorecard from this fight and say for example that Trout won six rounds and got robbed. Normal scoring changes the WHOLE fight

 

See my response to X. You are looking at this too simply

 

which did not amount to fuck all with the people tasked with judging the fight... that's the entire point

What are you even arguing here? Who's calling Trout vs Canelo a robbery?

All anyone is saying is that Canelo had the deck stacked heavily in his favor in that fight ... anybody arguing against that is objectively wrong

 

Trout "outhustled" Canelo for much of the first 8 rounds ... Despite this, Canelo needed only to remain standing beyond that point and he had at worst a draw

 

Somebody in the very same thread said this:


the open scoring completely changed the match and yeah a lot of people STILL thought he won the fight

 

Canelo sure has a lot of apologists.

 

Because it did change the match... After 4 rounds, Trout knew he'd have to abandon what was working perfectly fine to objective eyeballs... had he been unaware of this like in a normal fight, perhaps he would've created enough distance in people's eyes to at the very least "earn" the sympathy of a legit robbery

The open scoring forced him to become more assertive which played to Alvarez's strengths

 

And it also changed the way Canelo fought, which was my point all along

 

But it didn't

He just kept right on doing the same thing

 

Being totally pedantic here but the judge had it a draw (which was still obviously criminal). I think De La Hoya is the only fighter to win a scorecard against Mayweather whilst Canelo and Maidana both got a drawn card.

 

The effect of the open scoring was detrimental to Trout

Only he was negatively affected

 

I might be responsible for Finland's first non-suicide violent death in 2019 if this keeps up

 

Not really the open scoring. Just the scoring. If the first 8 rounds had been scored fairly, Trout could've continued his winning ways.

 

Goddamnit

 

Open or not, he doesn't win. So what's your point?

 

But he kept doing it because of the scorecards. With different scores (or not knowing the scores) he probably would have fought differently

 

1) there never would've been different cards, because as was stated several pages ago, Alvarez gets a ridiculous number of breaks

2) fought differently? He fought the way he always fights regardless of open or closed cards... spurts, lots of rest

 

Look... there's a lake... the water has calmed and we've all got our scuba goggles on looking at the lakebed ... I'm pointing to an unusual stone on the lakebed... Ugo doesn't see it yet but I'm getting there... then you show up, jump into the fucking lake with your gigantic rubber flippers on your goddamned feet and kick up a storm cloud of sand from the lakebed ("WHATCHOO GUYS DOIN'??!?!?!") and the fucking moment is lost, the unique stone now hopelessly buried beneath the sediment

 

Uh, what's your point? With or without open scoring, he loses.

 

Just DIE

FUCKING DIE