Canelo vs Charlo: Final Predictions

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  1. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    You're Right and REED Apologizes, Punk...For Real...

    REED Should've Kept TexMex's Relationship w/Canelo's Nutsack OFF the General Boxing Forum...Not Cool...




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    Boxingfan25 Undisputed Champion

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    You seem like a perceptive individual and it's clear you have a caring and empathetic nature. It's important to approach situations with empathy and understanding even when dealing with someone like Reed, who may face challenges. Let's strive for compassion and maturity in our discussions, just as you've shown with me. My little brother is autistic. He's 34 and wears a diaper. I've always stuck up for him just like I'm doing with Reed. Reed is harmless. Be the bigger man and walk away bro. Don't bully him.
     
  3. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    For the second time, I'm talking about PROSPECTS. See Tank Davis. See Benavidez. I'm not going to repeat myself.

    Would it be the best business decision for Al Haymon to let Canelo beat the shit out of Bena while having weight, coke, and lack of following issues and to SPLIT 500k of PPV sales, OR wait until issues have been resolved, build up Bena and sell 1 Million PPV sales that he would NOT need to split with another promoter? Canelo went to PBC to stomp all of their fighters, 1 down, 2 to go. One will not be Andrade because he will lose to Bena, and the other will not be Jermall. Who's left???



    From the horses mouth.

    As far as your health issues, going from fat to your current state only further indicates your having health problems. All animosity aside, your body is not processing protein correctly as presented with your muscular atrophy and your distended abdomen is a huge red flag. Get yourself checked out Reed.
     
  4. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    I'm a totally different poster on the GF, with this one exception.

    I'll even let his final pot shot slide for the good of the forum. He just can't help himself.
     
  5. REEDsART

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    ....and for the 2nd Time, You're PULLING Shit Out of Your Ass to DEFEND Your Love Interest; "PROTECTING" the Sanctity of Canelo's Name w/ALL Your Might...It's NOT Working Though...

    Bottom Line is There was ZERO INCENTIVE for Haymon to "Protect" Benavidez Right After Being Stripped for the 2nd Time...@ THAT Point, Most ASTUTE Businessmen Are Looking to CUT TIES, to CASH OUT On Their Investment....Benavidez NOT Getting the Canelo Fight Had NATHAN to Do w/Al Haymon, it was ALL YOUR Boy, Canelo's Doing...

    REED's Already Broken Down the TIMELINE for You and the UNDENIABLE FACT That Canelo asked, Asked, ASKED the WBC to ALLOW Him to Face Yildirum INSTEAD of Benavidez, DESPITE Benavidez Being the # 1 Contender...All this Back and Forth Spin Control, But You Have YET to Address That PERTINENT Tidbit???...

    Explain WHY Canelo asked, Asked, ASKED to Face Yildirum INSTEAD of Benavidez???...

    Better Resume - No....More Drawing Power - No....More Accomplished as a Fighter - No....More Well Respected in Boxing Circles - No...So Yeah, Since You're HERE, Since the LENGTHS to Which You'll Reach to DEFEND DUCKERY Knows NO Bounds, Please EXPLAIN WHY Canelo ASKED the WBC to Face Yildirum Instead of Benavidez???...Because Even Stevie Wonder and Ronnie Milsap Can SEE Canelo DUCKED Him...

    Benavidez Said He Doesn't "THINK" Canelo is "Avoiding the Fight":duck:....THIS is Your "Smoking Gun"???...How EXACTLY Does That PROVE Canelo ISN'T Avoiding the Fight, Especially Considering the EVIDENCE REED Slapped the Shit Out of You w/Yesterday and the Fact You CANNOT Refute or Excuse It???....& WHAT Did Benavidez Say in His VERY Next Breath TexMex???..."Fans, Legends Calling for this Fight...."

    There's NO Getting Around It, NO Justifying it, NO Appropriate Amount of Spin Doctoring to ABSOLVE It...YOUR Boy, YOUR Love Interest DUCKED David Benavidez, PeriodT!...The FANS Know It, the LEGENDS Know It, the MEDIA Knows It...Only DICK RIDERS Like You and BoxingFan, Dudes Who Take the Canelo Side of the Argument 11 Times Out of 10, Are BURYING their Heads in the Sand, PRETENDING to Ignore the Obvious....

    Also, SPARE REED Your Concern for his Health Dipshit, He Doesn't Need It...Since His Early to Mid 40's, REED's Had 2 Doctor Visits a Year and His Bill of Health COULDN'T Be Cleaner...Distended This, Atrophied That, Protein, Blah, Blah, Blah...Not Sure What Medical COMIC BOOK You Pulled Your "Assessment" From, But You've MISdiagnosed REED Pitifully and Should Discontinue Your "Practice" Forthwith...





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  6. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Al Haymon should've hired you, he would have lost 43-50 million following your advice concerning Bena vs Canelo.

    It takes two to tango, even if Canelo begged and pleaded for a fight with Bena, if Haymon says no, it's not going to happen.

    You asked for a link, I gave it to you. Benavidez, out of his own mouth, said he did not believe Canelo was ducking him. END OF STORY and your weak ass argument.

    If you want to continue the name calling bullshit after we were asked to chill things out, I'm more than happy to go all out. That is your final warning.

    I was mistaken, I showed your pic to my Nephrologist friend and he stated you are the gold standard of good health.
     
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    Haymon NEVER Said No, Haymon NEVER SAYS No...Clearly, that's NOT Sinking In....

    You're CREATING a Narrative That Categorically DOES NOT Exist...REED's SHAT On Your Premise with Names Like Porter, Wilder, Mikey and Spence...REED Fuuuurther SHAT On Your Premise w/an Infallible Timeline...

    By the Way, Fuck You AND Any "Final Warnings" You Want to Issue Bruh...Fuck YOU Gonna Do???!!!:Dont:

    Not 1nce Have you EVER Dictated a Motherfucking Thing to REED and You Damn Sure AIN'T Starting Now...You're SENSITIVE & BUTTHURT (as Usual) Because REED EXPOSED Your Love Interest as a DUCKER and You CAN'T Negotiate His Way OUT of It...

    'Well, Well, Well Benavidez SAID....."....If Anything, Benavidez is Playing NICE w/Canelo...Why, Because Canelo Had the Lame Ass AUDACITY to Say He Didn't Want to "Fight Mexican Fighters" (Remember That???)...So Instead of PILING ON, Creating Yet ANOTHER Hurdle to a Canelo Fight, Benavidez Said "I Don't THINK...".....Followed By "The Fans and Legends are CALLLING For This Fight"...

    What We DO Know is Benavidez Said That After Plant, EARLIER This Year and Canelo Sought Bouts w/No Fewer than 4 Different Fighters After That, NONE of Them Named David Benavidez...Dude Literally Looked UP, DOWN and THRU the Weight Classes w/Out Going ANYWHERE NEAR David Benavidez...

    If ANY Other Fighter Made Moves Like This, COUPLED w/ASKING a Sanctioning Body to Allow Them to Face the # 2 Guy Instead of the # 1 Guy, You'd For SURE Call a Spade a Spade...But Since it's Canelo, You're MOVING the Fucking Goal Posts...You're NOT Fooling Anybody, So PLEASE Stop Trying...

    Or Continue to EMBARRASS Yourself, Justifying the DUCKERY Executed By Your Hero...

    Showing Pics of REED to Your Friends???...Yeah, that's COMPLETELY Heterosexual...


    REED:Gay:
     
  8. TexMex

    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Oh ok, so you and Haymon speak on such matters?

    I've dictated many aspects of your life, you're just too stupid to realize what they are.

    FOR THE THIRD TIME, PROSPECTS! WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING ABOUT PORTER, WILDER ETC WHEN THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS?

    You can downplay what David said all you want, facts are facts. You're spouting your own personal opinions as to why David said. No one gives a shit.

    Yeah I showed your pic to my doctor friend, he's always up for a good laugh. Do you know what's REALLY not Heterosexual? Going on dates with other men like StingerKarl.
     
  9. Boxingfan25

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    The truth is, when you reach the level of drawing power that Canelo and Mayweather have achieved, you can pick and choose your opponents. Not many fighters have reached that level, but if you're part of that elite club, you call the shots. That's how it works. So here's how it's going to unfold...Canelo will fight Benny when he's good and ready. In the meantime, Benny will have to wait his turn and stfu. So you and your little side kick Malcom X or whatever his name is can express your frustrations all you want, but it won't change the fact that Canelo is a significant draw. I feel like I'm preaching to the choir. Given your background as a promoter you should understand this concept better than most. It's Boxing 101.
     
  10. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Canelo is a bitch…that is all. “Not in my list”…then who can possibly be on that list??? Lol.

    Munguia? No fellow mejican.
    Bivol? Nope don’t want to get punk’d again.
    Berlanga? Not worthy enough.

     
  11. REEDsART

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    You're NOT Explaining Shit REED Doesn't Already Know, Mija:rolleyes:...

    But Just as Canelo CAN Pick and Choose WHO/WHEN He Fights, "Fans & Legends are Calling" for the BEST Fights to Get Made, Along w/the Boxing Media...Fans, Legends and Media Have JUST as Much RIGHT to Assess the Actions of Those Picking and Choosing...

    & When a Man, Who CAN PICK, Repeatedly Elects to Go the OPPOSITE Direction of a Particular Fighter, There's Only 1 LOGICAL Conclusion to Deduce...He's DUCKING Him...SHAMLESSLY, REED Might Add...

    REED Ain't Frustrated @ All, Since Canelo's Been DUCKING Benavidez for 3 YEARS Now...Is What It Is:Dont:...REED is Merely Calling a SPADE a Spade...Not Sure Which One of You is Big Puppet or Lil Puppet, But YOU and YOUR Sidekick Can Continue Doing Herky's w/Your Canelo Pom Pom's, Building Pyramids and Shit, It's All Good...



    REED:pop:
     
  12. Boxingfan25

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    Akhi video??? The biggest Canelo hater. Tells me everything I need to know.
     
  13. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Akhi is light skin arab who hates everything and everyone that isn't obsidian black.....but it was Canelo's words "Crawford is not in the plans" and "Benevidez we have to wait buddy"...
     
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    Got to be honest, I don't see what everyone else sees in Benavidez, but admittedly I've only seen scattered highlights throughout the years. Anyone able to recommend one fight in particular that showcases the best of him?
     
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    Boxing fans are pieces of work. I'm sitting here reading comment after comment suggesting that Canelo is avoiding Benavides? Wtf? Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch I think ya'll need to take a step back and put things into perspective. We all know that narratives in the fight game can sometimes get blown out of proportion.

    Case in point. I happened to stumble upon an interview with Eddie Reynoso for those of you non Spanish speakers that's Canelo's trainer after the recent fight. In that interview he clearly expressed his interest in seeing Canelo take on Benavides next. So, it's safe to say that the team has Benavides on their radar.

    Canelo just fought 4 days ago. These elite fighters and their teams have their strategies and plans. Jumping to conclusions based on rumors doesn't do the sport any justice. Fuck at least give them the time they need to make these matchups happen and in the meantime take a chill pill and stop gossiping like a bunch of chismosas.

     
  16. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    relax…the 3-4 years the only fight we want to see Canelo in is against Benevidez…no other fight matter.

    People were not clamoring for Canelo vs Sanders, Yildirim, Callum or even Bivol or a trilogy vs GGG…..or Charlo..
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Correction I would give Canelo a pass from fighting Benevidez, if he calls Jake Paul bullshit…gets him in the ring and beat him to death…
     
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    Man bivol kicked his ass - totally outclassed him.
     
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    Bivol is a natural 175-pounder, while Canelo started at 147. Hopkins outclassed Trinidad and De La Hoya but they remain great fighters. In the end Canelo will also be considered great. surpassing Trinidad and De La Hoya.
     
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    What are Alvarezs five most impressive victories ?
     
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    Same, hes bringing size and pressure but Canelo will bring track shoes and find his way to the distance in the worst case. Best case is Canelo outboxes him for long stretches, paces himself well now that he's got so much experience and I don't see Benavidez stopping him
     
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    Actual victories?
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Canelo's never had a "wow" performance in the way many other greats have. He's just not a "wow" type fighter.

    What he has:

    - Controversial, unimpressive wins over Lara and Golovkin.

    -A clear, but unspectacular win over an aging, smaller Cotto.

    -A workman like decision win over Jacobs.

    -A stoppage win over a shot, alcoholic Kovalev.

    -A lopsided decision over a Callum Smith who came to survive (same with Charlo).

    -Stoppages of BJS and Plant (both expected).

    Hard to pick a top 5 from those...
     
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    That's right, there's never been a real "holy shitballs that was amazing" type of Canelo victory.

    His career peak was when he started calling everyone motherfuckers, in English. That was his true breakthrough crossover moment.
     
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    Nah,

    Bivol Can Make '68 and Even WANTED to Face Canelo @ Supermiddle for the Undisputed Titles....But Don't Allow FACTS to Get in the Way of Cheerleading...




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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    At the end of the day, the Canelo victory I'll always appreciate the most is him icing that waste of life Baldomir.
     
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    Fuck you Mean By "Time"???:duck:...

    Canelo Literally HAS NOT Made a WBC Mandatory Supermiddle Defense Since February 2021!!! And Even BEFORE That Defense, Guess Who the # 1 Contender Was???...YOU Talk All this Shit about OTHER Fighters DUCKING, But When YOUR Boy is Under the Microscope, When YOUR Boy is In the Crosshairs, NOW Motherfuckers Are Supposed to Be PATIENT???:Dont:...

    You Said YOURSELF Canelo Fights WHOEVER He Wants to WHENEVER He Wants to...Yet He REPEATEDLY Finds Excuses NOT to Face David Benavidez...You Can TAPDANCE All You Like, Take This Detour or That One, But All Roads Point Back to ONE Reality....

    Canelo is DUCKING David Benavidez...

    Again, Dude LITERALLY ASKED the WBC to Allow Him to Face the # 2 Guy in Yildirum, Rather Than # 1 Benavidez...It's Funny How YOU and Your Co-Cheerleading Captain CAN'T Explain That Tidbit Away...



    REED:duck:
     
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    In Fairness, REED was Most Impressed by the 2nd GGG Fight...GGG NEVER Spent Any Appreciable Amount of Time Operating Off his Backfoot, Yet Canelo KEPT Him There and Eventually Had GGG FLINCHING from the Threat of Body Shots...

    Canelo is the One That Actually Revealed the KEY to Discomforting GGG was BODYShots, Instead of HeadShots, Which GGG Ate w/no Fuss, Like Skittles...

    In Fact, "To This Day", REED Still Doesn't Get the "Controversy" Btwn Canelo-GGG 2...It was a Pretty CLEAR Decision in REED's Opinion...



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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I disagree. I had Golovkin winning the rematch 7-5, I believe.

    I'm certainly not rewatching it to confirm though. It wasn't a fun fight at all.
     
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    TexMex Fightbeat IQ Champ

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    Every fighter has controversial wins/losses Floyd, Tito, De La Hoya, Chavez, LUBIN, the list goes on. Whoever lost/won these fights have all been argued to death and are subjective.
     

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