Canelo vs GGG 2, predictions

King Carl would've cobra'd GGG badly..

I think everyone knows that.

 

Exactly.
Why all the boxing 'experts' on here can't see it is odd.

 

The term overrated is the most overused and poorly used term on fight beat. Xplosive for example only uses three words in a sentence: a noun, a verb and “overrated”.

How is GGG overrated? He had a long reign, won all the belts has an ATG KO%, a proven ATG chin, heavy hands good stamina and didn’t lose until he was 36 and that was to a young future HOF’er in his prime and the fight could have been scored either way. Total misuse of the term “overrated”. Don’t become Xplosive 2.0 with that juvenile crap

 

I was actually impressed by ggg's defense in this one.

And it's interesting how they sort of swapped roles in the second fight, with ggg starting out on his back foot and canelo stalking.

 

Dont be an idiot. Guy only faced 2 credible fighter, and was pretty much even with them. A lot of perskns were claiming that a jack or a degale fight was pretty much a formality for him, yet, he never beat guy as good as them decisively

He was/is overrated as fuck. Unlike you, im not impressed by a boxer going undefeated over a long line of garbage man

 

Hagler lost to Watts and Monroe when he was in his prime, then drew with antuofermo (controversial sure, but he had no business having so much trouble with that short limited trex armed bleeder brawler) and then had a close fighter with the older blown up lightweight Duran...took 11 rounds to beat up limited smaller mugabi who never went on the achieve anything of significance yet no one penalizes him for this. GGG loses once at age 36 in a close fight that could have gone either way and to a young powerful skillful accomplished guy in his prime and somehow he’s overrated. Gotta love fightbeat!!

 

Yeah, but if you werent completely oblivious to boxing history, you would know hagler also beat decisively a lot of good/great fighters.

Whats ggg best non controversial win, david lemieux

 

He's never faced an ATG puncher or any puncher to be honest. He ran over guys who were either too small, too scared and/or lacked power to hurt him.

This is precisely the kind of nonsensical talk which does him no favors.

Canelo is by far the best fighter he's faced.

Below is a list guys he's fought the past six years. Which one of them is a great puncher, a P4P candidate or Hall of Fame candidate.

Canelo
Martirosyna
Jacobs
Brook
Wade
Lemieux
Monroe Jr.
Murray
Rubio
Geale
Adama
Stevens
Macklin
Ishida
Rosado
Proksa

 

Golov is indeed overrated. I liked him and all, so it's not said outta bias or malice. But the past few years have indeed showed us that he was never as good as the HBO hype machine wanted us to believe.

Shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Hagler, Monzon, and Hopkins.

 

A guy can only fight the people that are available to him. We shouldn’t penalize GGG because he didn’t have Hearns to fight anymore than we should penalize Louis because he didn’t have Frazier or Foreman.

GGG indeed has a resume devoid of great names...but he did what he was supposed to do against the people he did face and that was dominate them. Only at the tail end of his career at age 36 did he have tough fights. Hagler has tough fights even before that age...struggling with unproven Mugabi and losing to Leonard.

 

By the way what ATG punchers in their prime age and weight did Robinson beat? We are judging GGG too harshly

 

He was born April 6, 1982.
He's 36.

 

Bull fucking shit.

There was a few solid fighters who called him out at 168, yet he played the "im too good for them" card

And in his prime, at 34, he barely got past (and was lucky) average as fuck jacobs

 

Which 168lb fight did hagler or monzon face?

 

Thats irrelevant since the mw division was loaded during their reign

 

If that’s he case why were haglers four biggest fights against fighters that moved up fro the lighter divisions?

 

yeah, they moved to the mw division, hence making the division loaded. And who is the 4th guy? If you're refering to Mugaby, the guy was a mw for a few years when he faced Hagler

 

Your claiming that Jacobs is “average as fuck” clearly shows bias.

 

you don't know boxing if you think Jacob is better than average. Even a guy like Jermaine Taylor was clearly better than him

 

Does anyone have a link to the fight so that I can download it?

 

I don't know about clearly. Either way GGG would have battered Taylor.

 

No way, he wasn't even able to batter Jacobs. In fact, most ringside media thought he lost. Taylor has a great chance to beat GGG, unless his chin betrays him

 

Come on now bro! Don't give me that circular reasoning. That was Leonard's first and only fight at Middleweight, Duran was no middleweight. I'll give you Hearns..but still Hearns had already been stopped at that was at Welterweight and so Hearns was arguably no Middleweight either...but since Hearns was a huge Welterweight I'l give you that one. Mugabi was a small middleweight by frame...a genuine Jnr Middleweight.

 

Just watch it on YouTube like a normal person

 

Leonard wasn't a small MW. He had the frame to carry the weight, and was even able to win a title at smw. I'll give you that Duran was a bloated lw, but that's it.

And even when you don't consider these 4 guys, Hagler beat a ton of better mws than the one GGG faced

 

Yes way!

 

I'm not sure if anyone that Canelo or GGG beat is better than say a Michael Watson tbh

 

Let's not forget that 'biggest fights' doesn't mean 'best wins'.

 

Probably not a good idea to reference "small middleweights" when GGG is 0-1-1 vs a guy who has a grand total of 3 fights at middleweight.

That same guy represents the best opponent he has faced.

 

Well seeing as the IBF 168lb division wasn't created until 1984 and the WBA and WBC until 1987 and 1988 that totally rules out Monzon who was long retired by then. And it hardly applies to Hagler either as virtually nobody fought at that weight during his reign and the WBA and WBC divisions came along after he was retired too.