Charlie Zelenoff

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Hex-One, May 6, 2008.

  1. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :bears: good point about the hands. We needed much balance in here :cheer: :lol:
     
  2. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    If anyone wants other examples I have an absolute ton of them from when I was bouncing... they tell a lot. For example: here is my all time favorite statistic:

    Number of people who claim they are martial art badasses: Almost 1/3rd of people coming into the first club where I worked if they found out I was a martial artist (cause I was really tiney for a bouncer) would tell me about their martial arts experience and ask to spar, etc. Of course they would not show up to spar.:lol: :lol:

    Number of times martial arts technique applied in combat: Many times people would posture in a stance, they would throw an odd kick or punch and make a very threatening noise.... Almost never did somoene actually throw a martial arts technique in a fight, or use a ju jutsu manoveur, almost never.

    One time I helped a Korean kid who was attacked by a few steriod heads... Tae Kwon Do is similar to boxing in a street fight in that the advantage is initial and is dependent on speed, ability to hit person before they hit you. This kid, much like a smart boxer would do, dropped a muscle head with a kick to the head.

    I use this example because people will oftne say Tae Kwon Do is useless in a fight... and it is in the ring against somene who can avoid a kick and take the Tae Kwon Do guy down, but... in a barfight a good solid kick to the head done quickly can be like a boxer throwing a good solid punch early.
     
  3. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    I predict it won't do a any good. People truly think that a prizefighter, no matter their size can walk up to anyone and drop them. People who I normally respect believe this with a passion.

    The truth is that there are a lot of very stupid bouncers.... I know i worked with some, and with these guys any small guy with a punch will drop them because they are stupid.... and wouldn't yu know it:eeeek: :eeeek: Guess what?! there are small guys that LOOK for stupid bouncers to KO in this manner.... Why not? They take a free shot and run away!:lol:

    Some of these small guys also carry blades in case the setup does not go as planned. I dealt with one of these one night. He was goading one of the the muscle heads I work with.:doh:
     
  4. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    What the Fuck is "Different" Stamina??? :laughing: :laughing: ...Can U BUY "Different" Stamina @ the Corner Store???...."No, I Dont' Want that NORMAL Stamina, Get me that DIFFERENT Stamina":lol: ...DUMBASS!!!...

    The FACT REMAINS, Most Street Fights R VERY BRIEF...& Most Streetfighters GAS VERY QUICKLY...That's when Bricks, Bottles or Other Foreign Objects Ususally Come N 2 Play (Unless the Cat is a Complete WUSS & Whips Out a Weapon from the Get-Go)...

    TIRED is TIRED, Streetfight or No Streetfight...& a TRAINED Boxer is Gonna Almost ALWAYS have More STAMINA or "Different" Stamina than your Run of the Mill "Streetfighter"...

    REED's Boxed a Tad AND Street Fought MANY Times (As Many as 35-40 Times)...There's NO Such Thing as "Different" Stamina, Dumbass...But by All Means, CONTINUE to BURY YOURSELF, TURDen Zelenoff...

    Can't Wait for the Premiere of your Video...


    REED:laughing:
     
  5. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    6'2, 220lbs of Pure, Unadulterated SORRYness:lol: ...

    TURDen Put the "War" N "Keyboard Warrior"...


    REED:laughing:
     
  6. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

    I didn't think this debate was the usual about how boxers do in streetfights. I though it was more about how a 220Ib fatso, who until relatively recently wrote an online diary about how many cheese strings and slurpies he consumed that day, belives he could tackle a world class boxer under lightweight? :dunno:
     
  7. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    Thats true. But the debate got taken in another direction... or two. :lol:
     
  8. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    Reed if you were going to get into a viscious street fight and had borrowed Alabama's $400 Italian shoes how would you avoid scruffing them up? Would you tell the guy you can't throw down? Would you try to use a style that would protect the shoes? Would you hand them off to Kaulki and fight in your socks? :dunno:
     
  9. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    If REED had on a Pair of $400 Shoes, he'd EXPECT the Shoes to CONTRIBUTE N Some Way...

    For $400 U'd BETTER Do MORE than just Wrap Yourself Around REED's Feet...Maybe they're a Pair of those Maxwell Smart "Get Smart" Shoes, w/Hidden Devices N Them...


    REED:lol:
     
  10. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    :lol: Those bitches better have some tassles on them that will cut somoene's face if I round kick em in the head!
     
  11. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Dsimon vs Charlie Zellenoff for the internet badass championship of the world?
     
  12. salaco

    salaco Undisputed Champion

    my money is on dsimon (below)

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  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Tyler couldn't beat me in a street fight, forget a pro fighter.
     
  14. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King


    Yeah, but that's like a prime Larry Holmes saying Tyler couldn't beat him in a street fight. It's really not a fair argument steve_dave. :nono:
     
  15. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    I have an inch and 10 pounds on poor Tyler... the size difference would be too much.
     
  16. Nobleart

    Nobleart Narwhal King


    I'll bet you could beat Nonito Donaire in a street fight Steve_Dave. You would swing him around like you would an ax-handle into a giant redwood tree. :bears:
     
  17. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Don't B Sooooooo Sure:nono: ...TURDen has "Different" Stamina...


    REED:cool:
     
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  19. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    do you have any martial art background..?
     
  20. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I believe he's a black belt in Jeremy Jitsu.
     
  21. D MAN

    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Dsimon nice "statistics"
     
  22. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    NEW CHARLIE ZELENOFF VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    ILLU - yes he said before, he has had 2 karate lessons.

    Wax on, wax off stylee.
     
  24. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    Charley would make me his Ukrainain peasant farmer bitch! :doh: :lol:
     
  25. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    Poor Swaze... How is he doing?
     
  26. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    You see how hard he hit the desk! :eeeek: :eeeek:
     
  27. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Ah Yes!!!...

    The INCOMPORABLE Danielsan Technique...NEVER Fuck w/a Man who Can Wash Cars & Paint Fences...


    REED:nono:
     
  28. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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  29. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    I don't like to think about work in my spare time. :nono:
     
  30. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    :laughing:
     

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