COME ON EVANDER!!!

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  1. jaman

    jaman Leap-Amateur

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    fuckin hell
     
  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    I know some people must be furious. there will be some incisor induced nipple lacerations in texas tonight!
     
  3. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I am proud of Holyfield.
     
  4. NeighborMike

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    fucking WOW
     
  5. LEGENDARY

    LEGENDARY Leap-Amateur

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    what a BULLSHIT DECISION!!!!!!!!!!! WAR HOLY
     
  6. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I'm still right Karl. :hammert:
     
  7. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

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    You are not right about Jack Shit, Brown.

    If you think that baboon won that fight, you don't know one single thing about boxing, and that's a fact!
     
  8. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    :lol: I'm just kidding. I thought Holyfield won for sure... but he didn't get the decision, which means he won no title.

    I'm right.
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    you wouldn't make erroneous claims in person, if you valued your arreolas
     
  10. Tam Tam

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    I thought Valuev won. He did. No suprise, other than it was even more boring than first thought.

    I never expected to see Evander run for 12 rounds and try to con his way to a win. That was shocking...almost as much as that it nearly worked.
     
  11. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

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    You have really shown your boxing intelligence with this post, pal.

    You have zero, which you have now revealed to everyone here.
     
  12. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No problems, Stinger. Thanks for your opinion.
     
  13. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If anything, Holyfield's performance probably earned him another 4 or 5 title shots.

    TFK
     
  14. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    And that really is the scary part. Almost beating Valuev will validate continuing to fight in Evander's mind.

    Plus insomniacs worldwide will be calling for a rematch.
     
  15. SAW

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    Based on his postfight comments, I think Holyfield may actually retire this time. Usually after a loss, he's very adamant about continuing with his "just get back in line" speech. However, this time it seemed different. In his mind, why should he keep killing himself in training just to have the judges rob him of a "title"?
     
  16. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You just like to go against the grain don't you?:laughing::laughing:
     
  17. ElTerriblee

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    It was not a robbery, though I want to thank Charles and Bernstein for their biased commentary, because the bookies are clueless on boxing and they react to it. That way they pushed the line on Valuev to a ridiculous +275 in round seven.

    It was a close and pathetic fight. Holyfield actually fought smart, and prepared well. I´ll give him that. He was in top shape for another twelve rounds and used the ring to his advantage, but he simply can´t throw enough punches to win and he gave it away in the last two rounds.
     
  18. SAW

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    I thought Holy won 8-4, maybe 7-5. However, it was close (and ugly) enough that I can envision the draw or 115-114 score. But 8-4 Valuev? Riddick-ulous.
     
  19. Tam Tam

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    Not at all. I think the fight was a big fat nothing and more than anything, the overwhelming feel of boxing fans that Holyfield not only won, but was "robbed" further solidifies my theory on underdogs doing better than expected.
     
  20. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    :atu::atu: suck shit to Holyfield :atu::atu:


    i would hate to hear about him being the "oldest heavyweight champion" just from winning a paper title

    Foreman beat THE champ to do it, not some shitty average title holder :hammert:
     
  21. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    This loss may have saved Holyfield's life. Had he won, he may have had to die against Wlad.
     
  22. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    would moorer have been a sure thing against valuev?
     
  23. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    of course :dunno:
     
  24. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    Ok but does this stop some of the teeneboppers from talking about a Valuev Klitschko mathup at least? :atu:
     
  25. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This is correct. I think Valuev won 7-5
     
  26. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No no, the baboon didn't win, Valuev did.

    :rolleyes:
     
  27. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I didn't watch this garbage in is whole, but I find it very funny that some reporters screams at the judges incompetence while there scorecard is in the line of 118-110 Holyfield wich is completely outrageous. Most of the rounds I saw where very close, with Holyfield showing more flash but with Valuev being more accurrate with unspectacular punches, and you just don't win these kind of fights vs Valuev in his "backyard". Valuev is pretty terrible, but he knows how to use his size effectively wich some even very good fighters are totally clueless against. The only thing he doesn't do well with his size is that he doens't use it enough to tire his opponent out, he should maul and clinch them more to tire them. What makes Valuev performance even worse is that he seemed to get the better of the few exchanges in the fight, but he was content plodding around and not forcing the issue on a man near his 50
     
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  28. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    but credit to holy who fought a damn good fight for his age, while Valuev helped him, he didnt tire as I expected him to and as he did vs Sultan
     
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    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Some people write symphonies. Going against the grain is Tam's gift.
     
  30. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

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    This fight deserves one post.

    :shit:
     

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