Cotto vs. Judah: strengths, weaknesses, opportunities

Yeah, so he couldn't flutter around on the outside like he had wished,..Tszyu looooooooooves 'good footwork'...people HATED this about Tszyu, he looked stiff, one dimensional, somewhat slow and wide open, to be outboxed EASILY with a bit of flashy stuff from the outside, it never happenned, nor will it ever happen, Tszyu's timing, reflexes and accuracey were his GREAT attributes, he NEEDED you to run..

 

No. he couldn't fight that early as he had a legitimate hand injury that Eaner confirmed was bothering him throughout his training camp that he re-injured in the fight, but he's a tough motherfucker so your not going to hear him bitch and squeal about his 'hurts' in the corner under any circumstances the way you heard Clottey crying about it, and the Cotto fight is still guaranteed for him according to Arum, and he's getting near 1.5 million to take care of his mandatory ...

"Stop running Margarito, Fight your mandatory!!!...fight your mandatory!!!!" - Fraud and Cotto fans,..

 

Cotto was scheduled to fight Margorito. The Margorito decided to fight Williams instead.

 

:bears:Margarito the most avoided boxer in the WORLD is offer a million dollar fight..but say NO cause Arum wanted his soul..then takes 8-9 months to fight his mandatory....ohh yeah hand injury....he also mosta had a hand injury before the clottey fight

 

Come on Double, watch the Corley fight again. There were like 10-15 second stretches where Cotto was allowed to jog around the ring and shake out his legs. Corley was nowhere near a finisher in their fight.

I can't imagine that you actually think Judah won't finish Cotto off if he stuns him like Corley/Torres did.

 

word.

One thing though...Cotto punches like a Mule. He has very very heavy hands. Very few Welterweights can take his punches round after round, and Judah is no exception.

Either way I don't see this fight going the distance, or should I say, it's highly unlikely. Someone's getting badly hurt in there and stopped soon after.

 

I'll bet anyone Cotto crushes Judah.

Easy fight to predict.

 

I think Cotto has some choice weaknesses, a susceptebility to being hurt by temple shots, in particular.

But Judahs weaknesses faaaaaaar outumber those of Cotto, and this is going to make a difference.

Zab just doesn't have it upstairs.

Compare their responses to getting floored or badly hurt. Cotto has come on to win, Judah usually fades and crumbles.:nono:

 

,.. he's getting around 200k less than he would have to fight Cotto in a 'super-fight',... Arum wanted to go down ''beggers can't be choosers avenue",..and Margarito's management rightfully said,...'get fucked' ..and that meant thank heavens, thank heavens for the hype surrounding Paul Williams as Fraud Mayweather's savior, I bet Margarito's management wanted to make an announcement,.. "Oh Thank you, thank you so much for making Margarito's mandatory purse more prosperous than we could have ever imagined it to be Fraud and Cotto groupies, we'll take it."

:crafty: You, and most of this messageboard got OWNED for contributing so wholesomely. Margarito's a happier man for it.

 

Who did you lose the sig/avatar bet to? :dunno:

 

I'm a fan, don't let the occasional criticism fool ya.

 

As long as Margarito doesn't bitch and cry after the Williams fight about nobody wanting to fight him...he should've fought COTTO when he had the chance....today doesn't guarantee tomorrow. Fight your little mandatory in a half empty arena....

 

Williams-Margarito is going to be an intriguing matchup and if its televised on non-PPV then you all fools are going to be watching it one way or the other. Don't act as if this is an insignificant fight:nono: in fact I reckon the winner of this could be facing off against the winner of Cotto-Judah. Unless Margarito wins that is.:tease:

 

Margarito is after all the MOST avoided fighter in boxing......Winky called him out a few years ago after the Trinidad fight...but nah, Winky wasn't good enough to be in the same right as Margarito...the warrior king.

 

Judah is a better fighter, simple as that. Zab is faster, IMO more powerful, and has more skills. Unless if the layoff has too big an effect, I really think that Zab will take this one via KO.


I see Cotto getting hurt early, making a bit of a rally in the middle rounds but all along taking a nasty beating. Zab will score a couple of knockdowns in this fight and land enough shots to force a stoppage.


Too much speed and power from Judah will be Cotto's undoing I think.

 

After Zab shoots his load early, I don't see this as being any different than Chavez-Camacho.

 

Cotto only has to land big a few times, and 1 of two things will happen

1. Judah gets on his bike and loses a decision.

2. Judah gets KO'd.

 

Whoops :shit: ,...Winky was the one who turned Margarito down actually while he was a free agent, then Ronald signed with Golden Boy because..I.....uh,...guess he thought negotiations would go smoothly for a Margarito fight then,..so to save face, De La Hoya cooperated to make a ridiculous offer designed to protect his pawns reputation, Arum acknowledged tactically what De La Hoya was doing, and didn't even need to give Oscar an answer, nor did Oscar follow up on that offer through the media, they both probably just smiled as he sent through the fax machine, like 'yeah, good one smart arse'. In baseball terms Illuminati, that's whatcha call a 'slider' my son..:crafty:

 

Zab Judah's right hook could spell a world of trouble for Miguel Cotto

 

I think Cotto at 147 will handle Zab's punches just fine. If they fought at 140...I'd give Zab the edge.

I'm guessing Cotto's chin issues had more to do with his cutting weight and the added weight will help him.

Many forget that Oscar was knocked down early in a couple of his fights to get up and win by decision. The last time he was truly down and hurt was against Quartey and that was in 1999.

 

plus, Cotto's proven that even if he does get hurt, he has the presence of mind to keep going and not shut down.

he was somewhat hurt by N'dou, and badly by Corley and Torres. and none of them could put a cork in it fast enough to keep him from going on to win.

and i think if Cotto was gonna go on either of those occasions, he would've. Corley paused a little, but only so that Cotto wouldn't expect or see the shots coming. and since when is going to the body when your man is hurt a "bad" decision? it's exactly what you're supposed to do !!!

and Torres hit Cotto with several clean as can be shots after he had Cotto hurt, they just couldn't put him down.

I see Judah hurting Cotto maybe once or twice, then going ape-shit like he does (which in many people's minds apparently counts as "good finishing"), before Cotto ties him up and then recovers. This could happen 2-3 times and Judah will still lose the fight.

 

the poster who wrote Judah will blow his load early and get fucked up is right on the money.

Round 1. Judah is on fire dog! He's putting his combinations together and the handspeed is just too much for Cotto. This won't last long. Cotto isn't doing shit.

Round 5. Its like night and day. Judah is definitely in retreat. Cotto has ripped him to the body the last several rounds. Judah just hasn't been the same since Cotto landed that big right in the third round.


give or take a round or two, this fight will resemble this so much y'all be callin me for my pyschic hotline number:tease:

 

Why is the media being so kind to the Judahs about Daddy sitting in for Zab for a phone interview? I don't see it as anything, but a fuck you to the media.

 

aGREED

 

Oscar was NEVER out on his feet like Cotto was though. Oscar got knocked down but got up on sturdy legs. Cotto came within and inch of being stopped by Torres and was basically out on his feet.

 

How can we call you to ask for the number???:dunno: :dunno:

 

"EL KNOCKDOWN NO FUE PRODUCTO DE UN GOLPE"

In otherwords, Torres pushed him down.

 

I think that might be the case but it is hard to tell for sure. top rank has avoided matching him with anyone who can crack since the torres fight.

 

I don't think very many people called in. I knew the moment the call started that it wasn't Zab. Too much bass in his voice and not once did he even come close to stuttering. I thought it was either Yoel, or another web-based boxing person imitating him.

the call only lasted about 20 minutes, and the moderator only allowed people to ask 1 question, having to get back in queue if they had follow ups. They played dumb after the fact, but methinks they knew prior to the call that Zab wasn't available and wanted to go on without rescheduling.

 

Damn..they actually tried that?:laughing: :laughing: