Cotto's defense blows

Are you for real?:doh:

 

you don't think Cotto could beat PBF? PBF lost to Castillo in my book, and barely beat him in the rematch. And it's not like he didn't get punished against Hatton either.

PBF is so over-rated it's infuriating.

He's quick and has exceptional foot-work. But he has no punching power, he's short for a welter-weight, and he's yet to face, let alone defeat a legitimate in-his-prime welterweight. So I don't see how the suggestion that he could lose to someone as determined and as punishing as Cotto is somehow ridiculous or unbelievable.

 

Margarito barely lost to Williams, and put a whole lot more hurt on him than Quintana did.

Let's see Cotto/Cintron. You'd be surprised how that fight plays out. Cotto would have to be the favorite, but we both know that chin is getting checked by Cintron, and Cintron, if nothing else, hits like a mule.

 

At 140 where he had trouble making weight... And he didn't squeak by Mosley, he beat him fair and square.... Dude your bad faith is legendary when it comes to fighter you don't like. It's no accident that the only elite fighters you pick Cotto over are Mayweather and Hatton, it's only because you hate them more than Cotto.

 

i don't hate Cotto! your mistake is thinking that if i pick against a guy that i don't like him. you know what that shows me? it shows me that you pick guys to win because you like them. now that's stupid.

Cotto's style, in my opinion, is beautiful. He has a special blend of aggression and grace. Couldn't ask for a better fighter to watch. But that doesn't mean he can beat every fighter he faces, even ones Ring magazine ranks below him. Get real.

 

and by the way, i didn't say Cotto didn't beat Mosley fair and square. But there's no denying it was a close fight (split decision if i recall correctly). That's squeaking by in my book. You might not like my choice of words because it doesn't shine the light of Gods on Cotto, but it's the way it went down.

IMO, ODH beat Mosley in the rematch more convincingly than Cotto did.

 

Please... You pick with your heart in ALL fights and you have the nerve to call me out on that? You start a thread downgrading Cotto's defense, which is perfectly fine, but in the same breath you compare him to 2 guys whose defense are worse than his. You've been here trying to tell us Cotto almost won illegally against Quintana, really lost against Mosley and now you come up with this "Cotto's defense blows" thread and you wonder why I think you dislike Cotto? What about a "Margarito defense's blows" or a "Margarito's slower than Georges Foreman" thread? I'm far from saying he's unbeatable, I think a fight against Margarito is pretty close, I also think Floyd beats him. Your method is just laughable, you pick a guy's weaknesses, exagerate it, match it against another guy's strength, exagerate it, and make a ridiculous bold prediction while completely disregarding the other factors. I mean, you said Cotto will duck Margarito when the contrary already happened, how do you expect to get taken seriously with ridiculous shit like that?

 

I just looked and you never started a thread saying Mosley really won, I don't know where I got this idea, sorry.

 

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Cotto's defensive liabilities are note-worthy given how highly ranked he is.

Margarito's defensive liabilities are obvious and known to all, and he doesn't command god-like status like Cotto does. so what's the point of making a thread about his defense?

 

Well, Margarito's ranked almost as high as Cotto... Anyway, I think we're about to argue in circle, I've said what I had to say. Let's agree to disagree.

 

Margarito ducked Cotto? :laughing: ,....yeah it seems he was going to have to "duck" one or the other unless he faced them both at the same time,....but he was going to duck Paul Williams ESPECIALLY, remember Fraud groupies?...Even Cotto's biggest fan Illuminati, complained that he was ducking Paul Williams when the fight with Cotto seemed all but signed.

 

Well, he was offered a career high purse to fight Cotto. Spin it however you want but at the end of the day, Cotto certainly didn't duck Margarito.

 

It wasn't me who said Cotto ducked Margarito? :dunno: .. and there's no spin I have to put on it, due to negotiation difficulties with Arum, Margarito's management pulled the rug from underneath all the bandied-maniac Fraud-groupies and Top Rank, by signing to fight Paul Williams, ALSO for a career high pay, AND with no strings attached,...beggars COULD be choses this time around, and ironically, Margarito had Fraud's bitter connections and fans to thank for it,...:crafty: he was ducking Paul Williams indeed.

 

Well, I was reacting to Double L's post at first and you chimed in, it's only natural that I thought you were taking Double's relay.

 

and he lost to Williams....who lost easily to Quintana...who Cotto completely destroyed...that makes Cotto Margarito's grandaddy...

when you are Margarito any over $10 is a career high pay day...:shit:...so Margarito didn't bend over for Arum and Cotto in 2007....well he is going to bend in 2008.....:clap: better late than never....or maybe he can bitch again about nobody wants to fight me....

 

That trick never works bullwinkle, that a, b c stuff is like playing with blocks, your little hamhead boy will certainly be doing the ol' 'switcher' when Margarito lands a tasty underjaw, he'll be 2 dimensional quick-smart, tossing from orthadox to southpaw on the blue :crafty: .

 

Cotto is going to beat the hell out of Margarito and retire him......Cotto will show more dimensions than a cube....

 

Cotto's Defense Definitely ISN'T his Strong Suit, but it Doesn't "BLOW":nono: ...

Considering how OFFENSIVE Minded Cotto is, his Defense Could B MUCH Worse...

Dude Keeps his Chin TUCKED, Gloves HIGH...He Picks Off Shots w/his Arms, Moves his Head, etc...

& he's been Dropped 1nce & Hurt No More than 2-3 Times his ENTIRE Career...REED has a Difficult Time Saying Cotto's "Defense Blows"...The Cat is UNDEFEATED!!!...


REED:dunno:

 

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Double L is just upset because the supposed #1 and #2 in his mind both got exposed. :cheer: The reality is Floyd is number 1 and Cotto number 2 and he hates it. :bears:

 

:bears:

Thank you

Brother REED finally brings some voice of reason to this thread

 

REED LIKES DOUBLE L, but this Thread is Nathan More than an EXCUSE for DOUB to LUST Over Margarito's OVERRATED Ass...


REED

 

and Williams. They were afterall the #1 and 2 WW's in his mind :doh:

 

Ooooops!!!...

REED Musta Forgot!!!


REED:doh:

 

maybe if i dig deep you're right about that. recent events certainly have refuted the claims i'd made.

but i take issue with your use of the term "exposed." in neither fight was anyone exposed. Margarito lost by the skin of his teeth, and Williams was highly competitive with Quintana. If he were exposed as you put it, not even Lederman could've had him winning.

most of all, the Quintana/Williams fights just proves once again that styles make fights, and that before we can know who the best welterweight in the world is, there's at least three fights that need to happen.

 

NOT 3....only 1 COTTO vs. MAYWEATHER

 

Double L,

I appreciate your valiant effort to voice your opinion, but there comes a time in every mans life to just pull out and STFU. So please let this go for your sake.


Hex-One:bears:

 

1. What was "Exposed" is that Williams Defense is ATROCIOUS...U Think Cotto's Defense "Blows", yet he's TWICE the Defensive Fighter Williams is...Williams has Absolutely NO REGARD for Defense WHATSOEVER:nono: ...

& even Lederman's Card CAN'T Put a Positive Spin on Williams LACK of Defense...

2. Since Styles DO Make Fights, REED Thinks Quintana-Williams ILLUSTRATED just Why Williams would NEVER Beat Mayweather...

Quintana's a LEFTY,but Other than that, him & Floyd have ALOT of Stylistic Similarities (They're Also Roughly the Same size), Except Floyd is SUPERIOR N all of those Areas...

A SMART "Cutey" w/HANDSPEED will Give Paul Williams TROUBLE 100% of the Time...Even Sharmba Mitchell Managed to for a Spell...

Floyd would Never HURT Paul Williams, but he'd Completely OUTCLASS him...



REED

 

Double, did you make your ridiculous claims about Margarito and Williams being #1 and #2 in welter in all seriousness, or were you doing it for "moral support"?